Staying in pattern question

Hi Creations & everyone I do hope you receive this as I have never done this before
Bizy Fingers pattern 0908 - size 46cm/18"- wyab yarn at back, yft yarn to front, ytb yarn to back, yfwd yarn forward- the pattern is 4sts wide, 4 lines to pattern, 1st row - K2 wyab sliP * K3 wyab sl1P rep. last 2sts - K2 - 2nd row - K2 ytf sl1P ytb * K3 ytf sk1p ytb rep.* last 2sts - K2 - 3rd row -K4 wyab sl1P

  • K3 wyab sl1P rep.* last 4 sts - K4 - 4th row - K4 ytf sl1P ytb * K3 ytf sl1P ytb rep.* last 4sts - K4
    before starting Armhole shaping I have 49stson needle
    Armhole Shaping - Cast off 2sts on next 2 rows - 1st row of cast off is 3 row of pattern -
    2nd row is 4throw of pattern - keeping pattern correct - dec. 1st each end of next & every foll. 4th row until 35sts remain - work 1row - then dec. 1st each end on next & every alt. row until 21sts remain
    Cast off 21sts
    I have tried several times to cast off & dec. without success I am 89 years
    I would appreciate if anyone has time to help me with this pattern
    Regards
    Vera27
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See if this helps. In patterns like this and in lace, I look at a certain stitch as a signpost. When I see that stitch in the rows below it acts as a kind of marker for where I am in the stitch pattern.


The above is the pattern ending with a row 4.

The following is the pattern with rows 1 and 2 (brown yarn) worked and the 2sts cast off at the beginning of row 3. Row 3 is worked in white color yarn.


The blue dot over the stitch is going to be the first slip stitch of the row. That’s the signpost for me. The next 3 yellow dots are k3 then a red dotted slip stitch. This is followed by 3 knits, a slip, 3 knits and so on to the end.

If that seems to work, then we can go on to the next cast off of 2sts on row 4.

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Hi Salmonmac
Thank you so much for the photos you have made it so much clearer for me

and replying so quickly to me you must be a great knitter

I will try knitting it later today and let you know how I get on

My regards

Vera27

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Hi Vera
It’s all so confusing, this computer technology, isn’t it?

I always go on the Web site when I use the knitting help forum, I don’t use it via my emails. I prefer it this way as I like to have a look around at what other people are asking and answering, and what people have made.
Here’s the Web address if you want to make a note of it
https://forum-new.knittinghelp.com/

The pictures I sent are still in your question thread, you can scroll up and see them there along with all the other replies and tips.

You won’t need to type out your pattern again as we can still see it in your previous posts, so that will save you a bit of extra work.

Hi Salmonmac
Thank you for your help but can I ask you for further help please I knitted your 1st line which is 3rd row of pattern I must have misread it my brain is not too good these days
3rd row - cast off 2sts K1 ( which is the 4sts beg. of row) - sl1P K3 slip I had 6sts at the end so I then counted the 3rd row sts from the end of the row to the beg.
3rd row - Cast off 2sts - K1 sl1P * K3 wyab sl1P rep.* last 4sts - K4
4th row - Cast off 2sts - K2 ytf sl1p ytb * K3 ytf sl1p ytb rep.* last 3sts - K2
Dec. 1st each end if next & every foll.4th row until 35sts then dec.next row & every alt. row until 21sts
I do not know how to knit the foll dec. rows to finish the Back
I am so sorry to keep on asking you for help especially when you have already explained it to me
I cannot remember how to find your page can you let me know again how I post the question and not email you and I will writ it down for future reference
Regards
Vera27

Exactly what you are doing in Replying to the posts is correct. Click on either Reply button will work.

We are called KnittingHelp, so that’s exactly what we’re here for.

OK, let me knit the next bind off (row 4) and then the decrease of one stitch at each end so that you can see it.
Critical question: are you still in pattern after the bind offs?

This is the next row, the first decrease row which follows the 2 previous cast off rows. They were rows 3 & 4 of the pattern. This decrease at each end row is a row 1. Every decrease at each end row will be on a row 1 from now until you reach the 35sts.


The decreases at each end are circled in green.

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Hi salmonmac
Thank you so much for replying to me so quickly and sending a photo

I am sure I will be able to finish the Back now and hopefully the next timeI I am in touch with you

will be to say I have finished the Back successfully

Thank you for your patience and understanding

My warmest regards

Vera27

See how it goes and don’t hesitate to come back and ask if you come to a problem.

thank you so much I appreciate your help and that I can come back to you

:+1::+1:

Vera27

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Hi salmonmac
I am so sorry to trouble you again I know my dec, are first 2sts at beg. of row & last 2sts at end of row every 4th row until 35sts remain

and every alt. row until 21sts remain

the pattern is 4 lines & 4 stitches wide

my problem is I cannot see where I pick up the 4 st wide on each row, I do not have good eyesight

Cast off sts. are 3rd & 4th row

1st line off pattern starts the decreases on 1st & every 4th row until 35sts - then every alt. row until 21sts remain

I have tried all afternoon but I cannot get the pattern correct

I hope when you have time you could let me know how I recognise the 4st wide of the pattern for each line

Thank you

My Regards

Vera27

Here’s the first decrease row after the bind off. I’ll work on the next decrease row and post that.

Hi salmnmac
I am sorry to trouble you again, I know my dec. are onthe 1st line of pattern, the first 2 sts at beg. of row and last 2sts at end of row on every 4th row until 35sts remain then every alt. row until 21sts remain - 4 lines form the pattern and 4sts wide my problem is I cannot recognise where I pick up the
4sts wide on each row also I do not have good eyesight which does not help me.
Cast off sts are on 3rd & 4th rows
1st line of pattern starts the decreases on 1st & every 4th row until 35sts remain the decreases on every alt. row until 21sts remain
I have tried all afternoon but I cannot get the pattern correct
I have posted this to you earlier today not sure if you received it becaiuse you have sent me an email but I cannot find it hope you receive this message
My regards
Vera27

This is the second row of decreases (orange dots) which are also on a row 1 of the pattern. The first set of decreases are marked with a green dot. The second set have an orange dot.


I look for the slipped stitches as a marker of the pattern. I want to keep those slip sts in line. See the blue arrows on the columns of white stitches. The same is true for the red slipped sts. You can tell where you are in the sets of 4sts by looking for the slipped stitch columns.

Thank you for your help and explanation
I will follow your explanation and hopefully I can do it

Thank you again

Regards

Vera27

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Hi Mac
I am sorry to trouble you again do you mean I use the slip st on every row as a slip st as you are showing in the photo

I do not understand when you say also for red slipped sts

I start the 1st row of pattern on first decreases - K2tog. sl1p * K3 wyab sl1p rep.* last 2sts - K2tog.

1st & 2nd row have the slip st in same position on these rows

3rd & 4th row have slip st in same position but these rows are in a different position from 1st & 2nd rows

with the decreases I cannot figure out where I can see the 4sts of pattern on each row

I am really sorry to keep asking you for help but I do appreciate it

Regards

Vera27

There should be sets of 3 knit sts then a slip stitch. Use the slip stitch to tell you where the 3 knits will be. Use the slip sts as your signal. There will be knits on either side. Once past the decreases there will be 3 knits between the slip stitches. Rather than look for sets of 4sts, look for the slip stitches.

In my sample rows 1 & 2 are knit in red with the slip sts in white.
Rows 3 & 4 are knit in white with the slip sts in red.

Might it help to place some markers or contrasting yarn loops on the needle to highlight a slip stitch so you can work forwards or backwards from there?
On this pic I have cited the 2 decreases in row 1, work 2 together at the beginning an 2 together atthe end.
I have also marked on where coloured markers might help in highlighting a slip stitch.
You would need to have 4 markers of the same colour to show the row 1 and 2 slip stitch
4 markers of the same colour to show the row 3 and 4 slip stitch
2 markers of the same colour to show the centre 21 stitches
I have placed a line for each marker before and after the slip stitches which are closest to the centre 21. This is because these can stay in place the longest before they get decreased away.
You could instead mark the earliest slip stitch in the row but you would need to move it along when that stitch is decreased.
As always, if it helps then great, if not then ignore it.

Thank you so much for helping me and not losing patience with meI will try what you have advised
I just wished you stayed in Edinburgh

I do appreciate your help

Regards

Vera27

Vera, is there a yarn shop that you can get to or a knitting group nearby? If you had someone with you to get you going it would be so much easier for you.
We’re happy to offer advice but there’s nothing like a knitters sitting with you to help.