Cardigan sleeves

Hello,
The pattern book is Alafoss Lopi 17
The pattern is number 3
The wool is lett-loppi
Using needles sizes as instructed
Question is the instructions for the sleeves, increases.Following chart( I am using one color no chart)
Knitting on the round Cast on 42 sets,….to this point I loose :it
inc1 st at the beg of*4th rnd from last inc,3rd rnd from last inc, rep from * until there are 91(95) sts,i have knitted sleeves twice using a check list, marking off each row as I go , 1,2,3,4, inc
1,2,3, inc
My sleeve looks symmetrical but incredibly long . Where have I gone wrong?

Welcome to KH!
You’re probably working more rows than needed.
From the last increase, work the increases on rows 4 and 7
then rows 11 and 14,
then 18 and 21
and so on. In each case the inc row is the 4th then the 3rd and not the row after these rows.
If I’ve understood the question and you are increasing this way, then you may have to decrease the number of rows between increases in order to shorten the sleeves and still get the width needed.

Thank-you for prompt reply, I thought rather than undoing all, I would knit sleeves in place, try it on and unravel the bottom of sleeves up, go from there. The pattern uses the steeking method of sleeve insert and turning pull over to cardigan. I have only knit with lopi wool, knitted many sweaters on the round. Steeking is interest. Way more to learn on this pattern.
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I checked my worksheet and yes the increased rows are as you indicated.
Maybe magic will occur when sewn in place.

I would have thought the increases were for 2 different sizes, as it says “until there are 91 (95) stitches”. So, every 4th row for the first size, and every 3rd row for the second size.

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Oh, good point! I didn’t think of that.

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Yes I thought of that last night. So good to have someone think the same thought. I might try that.

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If it was for 2 sizes wouldnt it be worded more like, “inc every 4th (3rd) round until…”??

If it’s every 4th (and not alternating with every 3rd) it will take even longer to reach the stitch count and therefore a longer sleeve, when the sleeve is already working up overly long.

@marynancy is there an overall sleeve length given? Is there a straight section before and after the increase section? Is there a cuff section? All these measurements, plus the pattern row gauge will help to calculate the measurement and row counts.
If your gauge is different to the pattern gauge it can effect the length of the sleeve too. Did you check your row gauge?

Hi thank you for thinking on this. If it were two sizes the brackets would define them so. I am trying to load a photo of instructions but unable to do so.
I did the repeats 24 times, if I omit every 4 th or 3 rd row increases I am short on stitches on the round. Yes your correct on that point, i would have to make up for it in length again. 24 x 4 rows 96 rows. If I omit the every 4 th row I am close to length but not the 95 stitches. I made a small sleeve to check gauge. I needed to work out the steeking part of the pattern. Sleeves need to be steeked. The schematic show shorter sleeves. So it must be my tension. I worked two sleeves with work sheet chart for accuracy so it must be me. Thank you for your assessment.

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This is the pattern, I am using one colour only. Not following the chart.

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If you open the Forum on your phone, you should be able to upload a pic of the instructions by clicking on the little “landscape” icon next to the emoji one. Be sure to wait as long as it says “uploading…” It can take longer than you think.

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You’ve done the right thing by trying out the steek on a sample.

You can use any stockinette part of the knitting you have done already (body is useful for a nice big flat square) to check your row gauge.
Count how many rows are within 10 cm or 4 inch.
See if it matches the pattern gauge.

Even if it does match the pattern gauge, if you don’t like the sleeve length you can modify it.

We can help you work out how frquently to make the decreases but we’d need your numbers to help with the maths.

It depends how you would prefer to proceed with your cardigan. You can keep the long sleeves (I like long sleeves, it’s quite the fashion at the moment too), or you can decide to frog them and remake with new calculations (learning sleeve calculations is useful for future projects too), or you might choose to just shorten them (with sweater surgery) regardless of where the increases have been made, and accept a wider sleeve cuff or add a rapid decrease and a ribbed cuff making a bit of a puff before the ribbing, both of these are design features we’d see in other cardigans so would not look out of place.

We’re happy to help if you want further help with it.

Another thought i just had. Increases are frequently done twice in an increase row/round, once at the beginning of the row/round, and once at the end of the row/round. Does your pattern say to do this and did you? If you have only increased at the beginning of the round it wll take twice as long to reach the correct stitch count.

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Thank you.

I will try that next time I make this cardigan.

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