Hello,
I’m working on the front part of a phildar pattern that requires knitting 2 sections and then joining them together. Each bottom section [COLOR=“DimGray”](left section & right section)[/COLOR] is supposed to curve up toward the middle [COLOR=“DimGray”](as shown in 1st photo)[/COLOR], but when I knitted it, the sections came out like trapezoids ([COLOR=“DimGray”]see 2nd photo[/COLOR])
What did I do wrong?
Here is the pattern instruction of the front section:
[COLOR=“Blue”]1st section (left side): cast on 35 sts and work in st st.
Shape curve on right edge by casting off 3 sts once, 2 sts twice and 1 st twice and on foll. 4th row, cast off 1 st once.
When work measure 3 cm from beg: 2 sts from left edge, single dec once, then
2 sts from each edge of foll 6th rows, sgl dec 4 times.
In the meantime, when work measure 6 cm from beg, leave these sts on a holder.
Knit another section (right side), reversing shaping.
Join 2 sides, placing curves in the center and adding 16 sts. in between them. Don’t forget to continue dec 2 sts from each edge. You should have 96 sts.[/COLOR]
How do I add sts in between the 2 sections?
And how can I get up to 96 stitches? After casting off all the sts, I have 25 sts left for each section (without doing the dec yet) plus 16 sts in between, I only have 66 stitches? I’m really really confused here!
As you can see, I’m quite a newbie and desperately need your advise.
I would think that you should be casting on more stitches to get the curve, since the piece is supposed to get wider. :?? That would explain your lack of stitches, too.
There are no corrections or forums to be found on the phildar (english) website. The only thing I can do is send them an email and hope they’ll give me some help.
In the meantime, can someone tell me if what I did for the shaping is right or wrong, because the shape of my knitting does not look like the shape on the bottom part of the sweater (supposed to curve up in the middle). Plus, how do I add stitches in between the 2 sections?
It’s sweater pattern 29 (N 456-T6-235) from Phildar Tendances Automne 06/07. It’s no longer on the english website but you can still find it on the french website.
It’s supposed to be knitted bottom up. The part of the pattern I previously posted ([COLOR=“Blue”]in blue[/COLOR]) was the beginning instruction of the front part of the sweater. I don’t know how I can get a curve shape by [COLOR=“blue”]“casting off 3 sts once, 2 sts twice and 1 st twice and on foll. 4th row, cast off 1 st once.”[/COLOR] immediately after I cast on. :?? Casting off = bind off, is that right?
I’m still awaiting a reply from Phildar… and I’m also in this looooong waiting list for Ravelry, so you guys may be my only hope to get through this pattern. Thanks for sticking by me.
I still haven’t been able to find the pattern. All I can think of is that you pick up stitches along the cast on edge and attach them from there.
Check the end of the directions and see what you have to do for the ribbing at the bottom. If you’re supposed to have stitches from the holder for this, then I’m right.
I wish I could look at the pattern. In English. :teehee: My French is 40 years old.
umm, I just did a normal cast-on and cast off 3 sts on row 1, 2 sts on row 3, 2 sts on row 5, … just following the pattern’s instruction.
The pattern starts from the bottom stockinette st part. The rib at the very bottom of the sweater is knitted separately and then sewn onto the sweater.
Would it be ok if I pm you the pattern instructions for you to look at?
I really appreciate you taking the time and effort to help me–you’re a lifesaver!
I’m following this puzzle too. It certainly doesn’t make sense as written. Let us know what you learn. The mystery needs to be solved so we detectives can rest.
I asked someone from Ravelry, who made the sweater, what was up. She’s going to check her pattern.
However, I had a brilliant (?) idea!!
Since this is a translation, and I’ve read that Phildar patterns sometimes are hard to follow because of this, what about. . .
Instead of adding stitches by casting on, what about picking up stitches down the slants of the two decreased edges? That would make the bottom edge curve up and still make a nice edge.
Thank goodness my pattern is actually in english. My french knowledge is zip… I purchased the pattern book from the english website of Phildar and they sent 2 versions (english and french) to me.
I have just scanned the pattern for this sweater and I’ll pm it to you. I’ve finished the back part but I’m totally stumped with the instructions for the front. But then I only have 1 year “experience” of knitting and this is my 2nd sweater, so I’m still figuring out the different knitting terms. I’m sure you’ll be able to decode the instructions with your vast knitting knowledge and experience. Let me thank you again so much for sticking by me through this.
:cheering: :woohoo: cheering you on as you untangle this mess.
Here is the response from ‘orangeberet’ at Ravelry:
re: Phildar pattern
Sent at 3:15 PM Today
Hi,
I’ve got the pattern in front of me now, they do indeed get the translation wrong with the curve - it’s meant to be increase, rather than decrease, not sure if you’ve got the French version as well (they sent me both) but I found school french helped where it says augmenter -ie incr, also as for the ‘adding stitches’, it is casting on an extra 16 stitches, and then joining the two sections by just knitting the next section straight after casting on the new stitches, if that makes sense. HOw it works is that these two pieces, joined together form the basis of the curved edge, and then you have to knit two ribbed bands that you attach separately at the bottom, and they come together at the ‘bridge’ of the 16 stitches that you ‘added’ or cast on,
Hope this makes sense. If you have the French version as well, there is a useful thread I found the other day on the petite bergeres de france forum (near the top of the forum) with a list of French terms and their translation - sorry, haven’t worked out how to put a hyperlink in yet but should be easy to find. let me know if you have any other questions, and good luck with it - I do get lots of comments about the jumper!
Best
Melanie
oh, Ingrid, THANK YOU so much for tracking down the answer to this puzzle! You’re a lifesaver!
Who knew that one little word ([COLOR=“RoyalBlue”]cast [B]ON[/B] not cast OFF[/COLOR]) would cause so much confusion and frustration… it all makes sense to me now.
After all this hoopla, I have one more question (kinda dumb) to ask–how do I cast on more stitches on each row?
Thanks for sticking by me.
oh, Ingrid, THANK YOU so much for tracking down the answer to this puzzle! You’re a lifesaver! 