Knitting in the round: it's twisted

I have well over 200 stitches on this bloody 100cm circular needle, and trying to control them has proved well-nigh impossible. I’ve used almost one ball of my BWM 10 ply, which means nearly 4 normal balls; and only now do I realise that owing to the INFURIATING way the knitting emerging rolls up and prevents my actually seeing what I’m doing, I have managed, somehow, to get the two lower parts twisted when I joined them.
I took such care! - I was POSITIVE they were aligned on the one plane.
But they are not: finally I can see that.
My brain is so addled, and I am so tired, that I have to ask this mind-blowingly stupid question: is there any way of saving it?

Forget it.
My brain, struggling with it all, points out after all that nothing can be done. No putting off onto other needles and turning - nothing would conceivably work. It’s a Moebius thing and it’s not meant to be.
The herringbone pattern is quite wonderful, and so simple. But this large garment is not one to be worked out unless one is paying total attention - and even then one can stuff up. As I have done.
Six days’ work, off and on: nearly four balls of wool.
Must’ve done something wicked.

Rats! I’m sorry you have to frog it!

I am so sorry! I just had the same problem only on a much smaller scale. I’ve not done it yet myself but have read here that you can knit a few rows flat before joining them and that helps eliminate doing the same thing again.

Whatcha wanna bet: If we [I]wanted [/I]to twist the dang things they wouldn’t!

We’ve all done it (and some of us or at least one of us, more than once). It’s just painful, but somehow, re-knitting seems to take less time and there you are back at the unused yarn.
You’re working on a long enough needle that your sts aren’t too crowded? That makes things harder. One other possibility is to knit a few rows back and forth before joining in the round. That’ll make it easier to line up the cast on and make sure the piece isn’t twisted. You can use the tail to close up the initial seam.
Good luck with this the second time around!

Been there. It’s very frustrating. The only way to ‘fix’ it would be to sew and cut a steek, but that would probably mess up your pattern.

It’s funny that we love to knit, but hate to reknit something we’ve messed up.

I c/o 84 sts yesterday and twisted the join. Argh.

My “favourite” mistake is knitting with the tail. :grrr:

Sighh … At least I am not alone in my moronicness (I have a tendency to invent words that suit).
The pattern I’m knitting - and yes, I WILL DO IT!, regardless of the seemingly endless need for starting over - starts with knitting a kind of shirt-tail for front and for back and then joining them into the one, seamless garment and going from there. I doubt there to be any possibility of protecting oneself from doing something halfwitted: one must simply CON-CEN-TRATE.
This is the pattern, so that you can all see what a beautiful garment this is, and why I shall never give up on it …
I’m very much appreciative of all the input: it does indeed make one feel less isolated in one’s stupidity.
:blush:

I WILL DO IT

:cheering: :cheering: :cheering:

Some days I [I]know[/I] I’ve cornered the market for stupidity. :mrgreen:
It is nice to know I’m not alone.

You’ll get it done, I’m confident of that.

Oh, that is a gorgeous sweater. You’ll do it and we can’t wait to see it!

Ah, salmonmac - I suspect you might have to wait a fair while.
Still, I’ve finished one of the tails and am about to finish the other; and then … and then … I SHALL BE SO GODDAM CAREFUL ABOUT ENSURING I PUT 'EM TOGETHER WITHOUT TWISTING !!!
I s’pose I can say that forewarned is, etc., etc.

That’s the spirit! Believe me, if there’s a knitting mistake left for me to make I don’t know what it is.

Two words when you go to join the tails: SAFETY PINS. You’l;l need several big ones.
Stretch the needles out and lay out the bits the way you kow they should be, then safety pin the edge and put a safety pin on the right side (by which I mean the outside of the garment)–and make sure you’ve finished each on the correct row and in the same direction, because that’s one of my favorite screw-ups. Fold the whole business where it’s pinned, flattening it out, and pin the other side while it’s lying flat. If it tries to curl up on you and argue about the project, pin on something with some weight to it to pull it down until the weight of the wool itself starts to straighten things out.

I figure some yarn is naturally hostile. Use anything you have to in order to beat the project into submission, and don’t be the least embarrassed or ashamed to do so!:rofl:

CRIKEY! - this is a new wrinkle, to me … and a welcome one, I hasten to add! :slight_smile:
I’ve actually passed the danger spot, and am quite certain that, this time, I didn’t make a total ballsup and twist my two bottom sections. However, I’m only here at my PC because of having to walk away from getting to the end of a ‘row’ (read to the blue marker) and finding that there is NOT a spare stitch left to K.
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It’s bloody beyond me, it really is. I’ve been motoring along at the rate of knots - forgive mixed metaphor - without a hitch, and suddenly I seem to be a stitch short! I shall have to turn off “Nabucco” before it reaches the end, because I’ve gone through the stitches in this ‘row’ and found no mistakes … so it’s going to have to be a real detective effort. WHERE HAS MY STITCH GONE?
Don’t try to answer that.
I shall be out getting large safety-pins from my local supermarket in the morning; because your hints about keeping the damned enormous garment straight (so to speak) are well worth adopting.
I thanks yer!
:muah:

:hair:

:cheering: for pins!

In the end, having failed totally to ascertain the whereabouts of the missing stitch, I simply made another one before the blue marker and went on as if nothing had happened. Insouciance is my middle name. :wink:
And you can’t tell! - the herringbone pattern looks absolutely fine. In searching for the logic, I can only assume that because I somehow or other made a stitch vanish between the orange and the blue markers, creating another one within the same stretch was acceptable to the monstrous garment.
:think:
I am about to have to change to a new ball: the Bendigo Woollen Mills balls I use equal four normals, which is why it’s taken me so long to reach [I]this [/I]tricky stage.
Any of you clever clogs feel like contributing your views on the best way of starting a new ball in the round …?

Lots of methods to join. I’ve been exploring different kinds myself and found this articlehelpful. There is also a very nice braided join which will work and some good videos here about halfway down the page (right after the ever helpful Fixing Mistakes).
Pity about Nabucco but, another day…

From the article salmonmac linked to:

“Be sure to treat each of these stitches that are made of two strands of yarn as ONE stitch on the following row or you’ll wind up increasing by accident.”

I’ve learned to use a stitch marker to remind me of the double stranded stitches. I’ve not folded the ends like that, must remember to try it. So far I’ve just done a few stitches with the old and new ends together.

Damned fine, ladies - thanks from the heart! I shall print out the overlapping join (my computer room is at the other end of the flat from where I do my knitting) and launch myself upon that method, very shortly.
And I like the marker hint very much - especially in the circ.s of having done something strange already re stitch numbers.
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