Just casting on for the Campside Classic cardigan. https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/campside-classic
My first top-down raglan! And right off the bat, I hit a small snag.
Row 2 [short row]: Purl to 6 sts before mC, turn. JSR1, k to 6 sts before mB (not increasing), turn. JSR2, purl to end of row, resolving JSR1.
Nowhere in the pattern does it say what JSR means. I’m guessing Japanese Short Rows, but I’d like to be totaly certain before proceeding!
Nice pattern. Unless you find something in the pattern to the contrary I think JSR has to mean Japanese short row. If you’d rather use another method you can. I find JSR too too too fiddy.
Thanks, @GrumpyGramma! It certainly seems fiddly to resolve on the purl side, although the knit side isn’t too bad. There are only 4 on each side, so I think I’ll go ahead with the Japanese, just to have that method in my bag.
That’s cool. Just FYI German short rows give nearly the exact same result. I think it was Roxanne Richardson explained how they’re pretty much the same thing just worked differently. That many will give you a chance to decide how you do or don’t like this method. Happy knitting!
From comment on ravelry
“Great question! No short rows needed because it starts flat and then casts on for neck edge, so there’s a dip in the fabric that works about the same as shortrows would!”
@ColoCro I think you have asked the question there, good plan! It seems very amiss to not have an abbreviation list for a paid pattern.
I hope you get an answer soon. It is confusing.
That’s interesting. I’m assuming the instructions posted are taken from the pattern and it says short row. If JSR doesn’t mean Japanese short row in this context I really would like to know what it does mean. And why say short row in the pattern if there are none? Curiouser and curiouser.
My preferred method of top down raglan construction starts with casting on the back neck and shoulder stitches and uses increases to add stitches for the front neck, then more are cast on at the end of a row as/if/when they’re needed. The back neck is higher than the front worked this way and no short row neck shaping is required. The comment seems to indicate something like this but doesn’t explain short row being included in the instructions.
JSR or Japanese short rows are referred to several times in the project notes with reference to videos from a couple of sources for the method. The “no short rows” comment is a bit strange but the designer seems quite responsive so a reply should be forthcoming.
They must be used somewhere and it doesn’t look like the sleeves!
@ColoCro, where does the section you quoted occur in the pattern?
Not that it matters but I also interpreted it as Japanese short rows. I can’t see that it could be anything else really. It is most curious.
Yes, the pattern definitely specifies short rows. I think that answer from the designer happened because she has several “Campside” patterns, and not all of them use short rows. So even though the question was asked on a thread for the one I’m doing, I think she thought it was a different thread. I have asked for clarification.
Yes, I finally read through all the comments in Ravelry and found a few that mentioned the Japanese short rows. I think the designer’s comments about short rows not being needed was referencing another Campside sweater of hers…she must have thought she was on another thread. There are 3 cardigans and 2 pullovers with some variation of “Campside” (plus 3 shawls and a poncho)! I’ve asked for more clarification.
The JSR happens on Rows 2, 4, 6, and 8, definitely for the back neck. I’ve had a long career drafting clothing patterns, so it makes sense to me that you would want to raise the back neck a bit, although I’d have thought that could be accounted for by where you position the raglan lines, without the need for short rows.