# Is k2tbl the same thing as k2tog tbl?

Is k2tbl the same thing a k2tog tbl? It’s a type of decrease right? Thanks =)

K2tbl looks to be K2 but work each thru the back loop. However, K2togtbl is definitely a dec. If the patt calls for a dec but states ‘K2tbl’, then yes, the K2tbl would = K2togtbl.

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And a K2togtbl isn’t the same as a k2tog either.

hmmm the pattern says this:

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Cast on 103 (123, 123, 123, 143, 143) sts.

``````	Row 1 (Right Side): [B][COLOR="Red"]K2tbl[/COLOR][/B], * P1, K2, P1, K1tbl; rep from * to last st; K1tbl.

Row 2: P2, * K1, P2, K1, P1; rep from * to last st; P1.

Row 3: [COLOR="Red"][B]K2tbl[/B][/COLOR], * P4, K1tbl; rep from * to last st; K1tbl.

Row 4: P2, * K4, P1; rep from * to last st; P1.

Rep Rows 1-4 for pat until 8-inches from beg, end Row 4.

Next Row: [B][COLOR="Red"]K2tbl[/COLOR][/B], * P1, P3tog, K1tbl; rep from * to last st; K1tbl - 63 (75, 75, 75, 87, 87) sts.

Next Row: P2, * K2, P1; rep from * to last st; P1.

Shape Neck Edge: Keeping continuity of rib pat as now established, bind off 7 (8, 8, 8, 9, 9) sts at beg of next 6 rows - 21 (27, 27, 27, 33, 33) sts. Bind off loosely.``````

Deleted erroneous info.

cam

http://www.michaels.com/art/online/projectsheet?pid=25366&categoryid=32

It would suck if I have to start over again xD I did 2 inches of it already =x but of course…I want it looking nice and not out of shape.

Thanks for the link. It’s late and brain fog had set in so ignore my previous post.

As noted in the patt abbrevations ‘tbl’ is standard ‘through back loop.’ Working those on each edge just creates a slightly decorative sel st. The reduction in st count (such as the 103 to 63 for smallest sz) is achieved by the ‘P3tog’…which is a dec. I don’t see any other decs worked in the patt (sleeves have incs). If you’re working the two edge sts ‘tbl’ as indicated it should turn out as written. You’re making an 8" rectangle and will then reduce your st count in the final few rows.

cam

Yes, it just means p2 sts, tbl, but not to decrease. Hmmmm, nice pattern…

It certainly is a beautiful pattern! I agree with the others…I think the K2tbl is a design feature. There seems to also be a K1tbl. This is another clue that it is a design feature.

Besides, when a row is asking you to K2[COLOR=Red]Tog[/COLOR]tbl…thereby decreasing across the row…the ending of the row will give the reduced stitch counts. Eg: 34 (36, 40, 42) st remain. Something like that.

I am going to save that pattern! Great design!

thanks !