Help with understanding Sirdar 9219

How-to Questions
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Really need help, I’m confused on how to knit row 1 after changing to 5mm needles for the sleeves. Knitting size 5

SLEEVES (Both alike)

Using 4mm needles and thumb

method cast on 38 [42:42:46:50:54]

sts, work 11 [11:13:13:13:13] rows in

2x2 rib.

Next Row. Rib 2 [4:1:6:5:7], pick up

loop between last and next st and

work into the back of this loop (this

will now be referred to as m1), (rib 3,

m1) 11 [11:13:11:13:13] times, rib

3 [5:2:7:6:8]. 50 [54:56:58:64:68] sts.

Change to 5mm needles and proceed

as follows:-

1st Row. P1 [1:0:1:0:0], (k1, p1) 3 [4:

5:5:7:8] times, work from * to * as

given for 1st row of Back, (p1, k1)

3 [4:5:5:7:8] times, p1 [1:0:1:0:0].

2nd Row. K1 [1:0:1:0:0], (p1, k1) 3 [4:

5:5:7:8] times, work from * to * as given for 2nd row of Back, (k1, p1)

3 [4:5:5:7:8] times, k1 [1:0:1:0:0]

Here’s the Back: ROUND NECK SWEATER

BACK

Using 4mm needles and thumb

method cast on 82 [90:102:110:

122:130] sts.

1st Row. * K2, p2, rep from * to last

2 sts, k2.

2nd Row. P2, * k2, p2, rep from * to

end.

These 2 rows will now be referred to

as 2x2 rib.

Work 9 [9:11:11:11:11] rows more in

2x2 rib

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Hello
Nice pattern and comes in some kids and teens sizes too which is handy.

Size 5, so 64 sts?

Any part with a ‘0’ for your size you skip so the first part P0 is nothing do zero sts, this happens again at the end of the row.

(K1 p1) 7 times, do everything inside the brackets 7 times, that’s 14 sts

Work from * to * as given for Back is (k2, p2) repeated, no stitch count given but i calculate this to be 36 sts

(P1, k1) 7 times, that’s 14 sts

14+36+14 = 64 sts

It might help to count the sts before starting this row and place markers at 14 sts from each end, the centre between the markers should be 34 sts.

I hope this helps, let us know how you get on.

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Welcome to KnittingHelp!
Creations has given you a good start for the beginning of the sleeve. I’m wondering about the pattern in the body of the back. Can you give us just row 1 of the back pattern above the ribbing which you posted showing the pattern between the asterisks.
The photo for one of the Ravelry projects shows the back as having the aran cables and moss stitch similar to the front. See this project.

And the sleeve also seems to reflect parts of this cable pattern.

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Oh good catch salmonmac. The back i looked at from the first post is not the correct row is it?
I did wonder why it was 2 x 2 rib but made the assumption the cable was just starting a few rows higher to run the rib into the cable (i have done this), but actually, it is the wrong row 1 so my post is not right.

@sandrarv please ignore the bit i put for the *
We can help again with the correct row when you post it.

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I believe this is the correct row where, I should be working with. This follows the 2x2 ribbing rows and changing to 5mm needles

I appreciate your help with this.

ROUND NECK SWEATER

BACK

Using 4mm needles and thumb

method cast on 82 [90:102:110:

122:130] sts.

1st Row. * K2, p2, rep from * to last

2 sts, k2.

2nd Row. P2, * k2, p2, rep from * to

end.

These 2 rows will now be referred to

as 2x2 rib.

Work 9 [9:11:11:11:11] rows more in

2x2 rib.

Next Row. Rib to end inc 2 sts evenly

across row for 2nd, 4th and 6th sizes

only. 82 [92:102:112:122:132] sts.

“Change to 5mm needles and proceed

as follows:-”

1st Row. P1 [0:1:0:1:0], (k1, p1) 6 [9:

11:14:16:19] times, p2, k8, * p2, C2B,

p4, (C4B, p4) 3 times, C2F, p2, * k8, p2,

(p1, k1) 6 [9:11:14:16:19] times, p1 [0:

1:0:1:0]

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Thanks for posting the new info, sorry about not spotting it earlier.
Try this

Size 5, 64 sts

Any part with a ‘0’ for your size you skip so the first part P0 is nothing do zero sts, this happens again at the end of the row.

(K1 p1) 7 times, do everything inside the brackets 7 times, that’s 14 sts

Work from * to * as given for Back is

  • p2, C2B, p4, (C4B, p4) 3 times, C2F, p2, *
    that’s 36 sts

(P1, k1) 7 times, that’s 14 sts

14+36+14 = 64 sts

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Thank you! I completed rows 1- 4 in which there is an increase in row 3 so now I have 66 sts.

After row 4, I’m not sure but am I to continue to repeat rows 1- 4 except when it says work from * to *

am I working row 5 of the back ? ( I tried that and ended up with 2 extra sts but my count is right 66 sts) I’m so confused :face_with_spiral_eyes:

Here is what is states to do:

From 1st to 4th row sets position of

double moss-st and cable panel.

Keeping continuity of patt as set

(throughout) inc 1 st at each end of

9th [9th:7th:7th:7th:5th] and every

foll 12th [10th:8th:8th:8th:6th] row

to 62 [64:66:78:90:78] sts,

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You want to continue the cable panel that’s used on the back. So keep working between the asterisks for rows 5,6,7,8 and so on as if you were working the back of the sweater (but only working the section between the asterisks).
At the same time increase on each end of the sleeve. If the first increase is on row 7 then increase on rows 15,23,31,39,47,55,63,71,79,87 and 95. That should bring you to 90sts. Ignore any increases on the row for the back of the sweater. You only want to pay attention to the cable pattern between the asterisks on the back. All the increases will be in the double moss stitch.

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If you placed markers initially at
14 - 36 - 14
Then the markers are already in position to keep the cable pattern (the * part of 36 sts) in line. Always do the cable between the markers.
The sts outside will increase
15 - 36 - 15,
And you will need to read your knitting to keep the double moss stitch pattern working correctly.
If you didn’t place markers already I suggest you place them now, they are a great help to keep things in line.

Are you able to tink back the row where you might have misaligned the cable and ended with 2 sts left? (Tink is careful undoing of each stitch, let us know if you need a video)

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Yes, I was able to tink back. I also have my markers in place. I understand my mistake, when I increased by 2 sts in row 3, I didn’t keep the double moss st pattern and that’s how I ended up with 2 extra sts at the end of the row. Thank you for helping me!!! I’m going to give it another try.

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Okay, I understand now gosh I feel like the pattern beat me up today. I know the basics of knitting and I’m probably in over my head but I’m going to keep going with this pattern. I’m making mistakes, learning a lot and enjoying the process. Thank you for taking the time to help me.:slightly_smiling_face:

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You’ll get there. We all have times of feeling in over our heads but i think that’s also why we love knitting, every pattern is another challenge.
The main thing is you’ve been able to see and understand where it went a bit off track, you’ve managed to tink and know what to do next. Perfect really!

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In over your head is often the best way to learn. Mistakes are both learning opportunities and a chance to do more knitting! You seem to have a good attitude about it, so keep on doing what you’re doing.

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