confused about colorwork technique in pattern

i am knitting a sweater pattern that asks you to use stranded color work for one section and intarsia for another. this picture is a section of the back, and it instructs you to use intarsia when you start the section with the white background.


i am very confused about this. i’ve tried to do stranded for the white background section but frogged it because i was using more yarn than the pattern asked for, and knitting with 3 strands in an uneven colorwork pattern was difficult.
i am mostly confused about how i am expected to do intarsia when it comes to the thin sections of a single color that are only 1-2 stitches wide. the pattern says nothing about duplicate stitch but is that what i should do?
i am not super confident with intarsia but i want to do it correctly if thats what the pattern requires.

Welcome to KH. What pattern are you using? That’s a cool design. IMHO if it works and you like the results, it’s correctly done. For one stitch columns I would almost certainly do duplicate stitch. As for any intarsia portions you would be doing, that I must leave to others.

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hi, thank you! i’m using this pattern from etsy! i appreciate the advice, i think i am frustrated with undoing this section twice now and not looking forward to intarsia which i’ve had trouble with

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Welcome!


Large portions of the design work best in intarsia. Solid areas of the loon’s body, parts of the moon and the heads of the cattails for example. You’ll need seaparate balls or butterflies of yarn for these and for the main color on either side of these parts.
I agree with GG, duplicate stitch for the single lines works best.

I’ve done a tiny bit of knitting intarsia, enough to know it’s not my thing. I admire the beautiful work of others and wish it didn’t prove so daunting for me. I’m betting you’ll end up with a lovely cardigan. I did do a Tunisian crochet bag using intarsia but didn’t know that’s what it was and was so ignorant I had no clue what I was doing. I was happy with the end product and my granddaughter loved it.

Hello
I have done what I call “spaghetti intarsia” which is lots and lots of strands worked at once. It’s kind of daunting to begin with but once you get into the flow of it, it’s actually very satisfying.
I’m not a fan of duplicate stitch in these cases because the added stitch ends up a bit raised from the surface - that can look good if the thing pictured makes sense to be raised (like strands of grasses maybe) but often it adds bulk and always adds another bunch of ends to weave in later. The many strands of intarsia do also add many ends to weave in later, but without the added bulk to the fabric, also often its possible to weave the end in as you go (see videos weaving in as you go or weavin’ Steven method,) and sometimes if you look ahead a strand might be woven as you go a few stitches and then carried behind up the rows to another place a few rows after where it is needed and can be woven as you go, a stitch or two before it’s needed, to secure it, and then used again. This reduces the amount of weaving in later.
The hardest part, probably, the daunting bit, is dealing with all the strands. For this type of intarsia I never use little balls or big balls or butterflies or anything which prevents the strand from pulling through the bundle of spaghetti yarn you will work with.
Long loose strands are just left to do their thing, They will become twisted in what looks like an impossible knot, however, almost always the strand needed for the next stitch can be drawn/pulled, from the needle end, and it will fall out of the bundle of spaghetti. If the bundle ever tightens up it can be gently pulled apart to loosen it and a few long strands pulled out from the needle end will make the whole thing loosen up and free the strands again. The strand ends must be loose to allow the drawing through of the strand needed. Any butterfly or ball just causes unmanageable knots and blocks the flow of the yarn.

The first time I did this type of intarsia I read to use strands each only a couple of meters long. I later found I could work with 10 or 15 meters successfully which helps with managing yarn for the larger areas, working with just 2 meters was too limiting (i was having to add another strand when I ran out, more ends, more bulk). But as you go along you will judge how long you will need the strand. When a strand has finished being used and remains long you can cut it off (leave a tail to weave unless already woven as you go) and keep it for another area.

I’ve marked up a piece of your chart, the part I think you are not sure of, to give an example of the strands.
You’ll probably need to zoom in the see the numbers but maybe this could help.

Green, the white boxes. Beginning on the bottom right as though row 1 of a chart, each section has its own strand. As you look up the rows for each number you can see the area I works. Look at number 3, it begins with a single stitch, that’s the new strand, there is a single stitch to the left (one stitch of grass between), as it stands alone I would use strand 3 here too, in the row above strand 3 carries across back to its original column and is worked, then stays in that section all the way up.
About 7 rows up a new strand is brought in because 3 can’t go both ways, green 6. Follow them up and green 3 and 6 merge into one, at this point 3 can be carried behind to the next section (3 at top right).

Blue, the grass strands. Each has its own. Blue 4 initially looks redundant as 3 could work the first few rows, however 3nand 4 branch away from each other so at some point that strand 4 needs bringing in, either at the bottom or a few rows up. You can intarsia link 2 strands of the same colour where they meet for a few rows and then allow them to seperate as they branch off. Blue 5 and 6 you could choose to combine into a single strand and strand it across the few stitches of white between.
Purple shows 2 strands of the dark box.

You could work up this section, around 21 sts wide and 28 rows on a swatch to see how it goes?

Another option is to use a single long strand for ALL the white boxes (green mark up) in that section and only have multiple strands for the grass (blue) and dark (purple). Personally I find the fabric is more even with the full intarsia, but I’ve also worked sections this way. As you work the white boxes all in one strand you twist the yarn behind the intarsia grass strand when you come to it and carry the main colour across like stranded work. If you work this way I still recommend cutting a long strand for the main colour and not working with a ball/butterfly.

Either option, the intarsia method is perfectly workable in a single stitch or 2 stitches. It’s just a matter of setting up and starting. It’s a little slower than fairisle which can whip across a row of 2 colours in no time, but the slower process can be very enjoyable and I am surprised at how quickly I get across a row of many stranded intarsia.

Everyone is different and everyone has preferences. This is just mine. I personally don’t feel the pattern was intended to have duplicate stitch and it doesn’t look that way in the pattern photo, but you should work whichever way you prefer.

I’d love to see your progress pics on this piece. It’s a great design.

Thought I’d share a pic of my early rows of a recent sweater so you can see the yarn spaghetti bundle, it’s only a few rows in but already a big bundle of yarn strands to work 1, 2 or 3 wide stretches of colour. In this pic I still have a few small balls I have not unwound yet, they were only wound for a few set up rows before totally unwinding all of them so the strands could glide through the mess.

this is really helpful, thank you! i assume this method would use the provisional loop method for intarsia in the round?

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You’re going to work the pullover rather than the cardigan? Yes, you’ll need to work the provisional loop or short rows in order to work intarsia in the round.

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I don’t work in the round so can’t help with that but I see salmonmac answered.

thanks to your help, i finished the colorwork section with intarsia! im pretending the ends on the back dont exist right now

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Gorgeous design and colorwork! You’ve made this work so nicely. Now get to those pesky ends and weave them in.

Well you have worked that up just perfectly, what a beautiful result. Well worth the intarsia spaghetti I’d say.
It’s a bit of a strange method to get started with and seems like it must be horrible and frustrating to work but it becomes sort of meditative to go a little slower and embrace the tangle.
Yes, the ends can be plentiful, hopefully you will get into a relaxing sewing session with them and find it reasonably relaxing.
Worth every stitch.