Ok, so my pattern says to K3 P3 rib for 2" then change to larger needles.with rs facing start to work in argyle pattern from row 1 as shown above,starting with stitch marked A. Each P st should fall in centre of a 3-stitch rib. I get it all except the part about 3-stitch rib. I think they want the Purl to be in the centre of the 3-stitch rib but where is that? Do they mean the Purl should be above the second knit in K3 ? :shrug:
I think it means that a purl will be in the center of the 3 knits and the center of the 3 purls in the ribbing. Is there a purl every 3rd stitch?
here is the chart.Well, I was trying to send just the chart but I keep screwing it up. I am not sure how to do that so I have to send the whole pattern. http://magknits.com/May06/patterns/argyle.htm
It looks like the purl in the pattern stitch will be centered over the purl in the ribbing on the first row. It should happen automatically, and it will help you to make sure you’re on track on the first row.
The first row of a pattern like this sometimes is hard to keep track of. Later rows are easier since you can reference your previous row. This gives you a reference point.
a couple more questions. When working the pattern do I just do the chart in the green box over and over. Cast on 71sts And when I have to do my first inc at each end to 79sts(for back) and taking in new sts into pattern, should I then on row seven inc one stitch IN from each end? So looking at the chart it will be a Knit on both ends. Then inc on row 15 it will be a purl on both ends on row 23 it will be a knit on both end . Then the chart runs out so I have to start over for the last inc is that right? so on the last inc it will actually be on row 7 again and that will be a purl on both ends then I will have 79sts When increasing on the edge of a sweater do you want the inc to slant right towards the right edge of the sweater and the slant left towards the left edge. So should I do a MIR for the first inc and then do a MIL for the second inc? Or should I just do a MIL for all the increases? Also, on my first inc my first stitch is a Knit and I am suppose to make a Knit inc so that is fine but on my second inc row 15 my first stitch is a purl and I am to make another purl but my second stitch is a knit. How do I make this inc if I am increaseing one stitch in from the edge? then row 23 and row 7 I run into the same problem. Am I making anysense? Should I increase on the first stitch to prevent this problem? :??
You’re making sense, but you’re driving yourself crazy. 
When you do increases at the ends on a pattern like this, it’s as if you expand the pattern outward. After you’ve increased on the previous row, and it’s time to incorporate that stitch into your pattern, just continue on the left edge–that’s the easy one–just knit whatever would come next. On the right edge, you kind of have to count backwards.
You can also put a mark or post-it on your pattern to show the beginning and end stitches after the increases. Just move the right side one row to the right and the left side one row to the left.
I don’t get particular about what increases I make at the edge of a sweater since it will be seamed. I generally kfb if it’s supposed to be a k at the end, or kp in one stitch if it’s supposed to be a purl at the end, and do the reverse at the beginning of the row, working a pk if the new stitch will be a purl in that spot or whatever combo works at that point.
Some people are more particular about the lean of their stitches, though, so hopefully you’ll get some input on this.
Crazy is my middle name 
But if I am getting you right: if I am inc and my first stitch is a purl and my second stitch is a knit but my pattern is calling for a purl inc I would just do a purl inc but because I am inc one in from the edge I am increasing into a knit so that is where you say to do a KP and the same on the end of the row. And if I am increasing into a purl but they want me to add a knit that is when I do a KFB on both ends. What do you mean do the reverse at the beginning of the row, working a PK(what is a PK) if the new stitch will be a purl in that spot.I know this should be easy but I cant get my head around this.eg" row 15 first inc KP and kp at end row 23 Kfb and beg and end of row? Is that right?
Should I post this, as new topic, I am sure other newbie’s will want to know
To try to keep it basic, what I do is try to create whatever stitch is called for as if the pattern stitch was there. It really isn’t critical. These increases don’t show all that much. Just work them correctly on the next row.
You can do a regular M1 one stitch in on the increase row, but make sure you work it appropriately on the next row. The pattern just sort of expands as you go.
I just happen to try to either do a k in front and back if both stitches are knit; purl and knit (PK) in the single stitch if that’s what they’re supposed to look like.
For example, if you were doing an increase at the end of ribbing, you’d increase like this:
[color=red] . ......pkk[/color]ppkkppkkppkkppkk[color=red]ppk[/color]
[color=red] .........kk[/color]ppkkppkkppkkppkk[color=red]pp[/color]
[color=red] ..........k[/color]ppkkppkkppkkppkk[color=red]p [/color]
...........ppkkppkkppkkppkk
If the stitch I’m adding will live it’s life as a purl on the side I’m doing, then I’d probably purl and knit into the first stitch of the row, and knit and purl into the last stitch of the row on the first increase. That’s just me, though. As I said, it’s not that critical, as long as you work those properly later on.
OK, now I am getting it. I think it is just a little easier if I increased in the first stitch instead of the second stitch because in the second stitch it throws the chart off a little.I get how you said to purl and then knit the first stitch because the purl is going to be on the edge but when you come to the end of the row should you not purl and then knit because you want the knit to be on the outside edge?(for the first row) :teehee: I told you I will drive you crazy. I guess it is my Armed Forces training I had. I always pay attention to detail. Thank for putting up with me 
At the end of the row, just do whatever would come next–much simpler than trying to figure out what to put first.
thank so much!
Ingrid, I can be so thick sometimes you told me before and it took until now to get it. :
Everything is clearer when you have the knitting right in front of you.
Trying to understand a pattern completely in advance is like trying to understand how to put together a bicycle by reading all the directions. You can’t possibly know how to attach flange B to socket A that occurs on page 18 until you actually have the flange and socket in front of you.
I promise I won’t look ahead of this pattern. I will only take one step at a time and when I don’t know what to do then I will ask you again. Thanks
