Binding off half fisherman's rib

Hello
Is there a best way or any tips on binding off for half fisherman’s rib please.
I’m swatching the method where the RS is P1, K in the row below, repeated, ending the row with P1.
The WS is k1 p1 rib

Wondering which side is best to bind off on and if there is a method to maintain the stretch or just bind off in pattern?

Thanks

I use this bind off whenever I can because I like the edge. It’s neat but stretchy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23uJSGokBDA
It’ll work for half fisherman’s rib or half brioche although I’ve only used it on brioche.

Thank you.
I’m glad I tried that on a swatch! I don’t think black is the right colour to try out this bind off, and I think I should have been on a right side rather than a wrong side as it went pretty wrong.
I’ll try again with a different colour.
Thanks

I need some help to get started if possible please.

I have a swatch, started in half fisherman’s rib as that is what my sweater panel is in, then transitioned to fisherman’s so it’s reversible. I have a life line in and a few rows worked to get away from the life line.
The method I worked was:
RS. selvedge is p1 (this will be seamed), (k1b, k) rep to last 2 stitches, k1b, p1
WS selvedge is k1, (k, k1b) rep to last 2 stitches, k2

I have a reverse stockinette selvedge at each end for seaming, this was because of the half fisherman’s rib tutorial I followed which was
RS. p1, k1b to last stitch, p1
WS knit across

All the tutorials for tubular bind off seem to say it must start with a knit stitch so I’m stuck due to my selvedge.

Can you help me out in how to get started please?

Also, I worked all of what would have been purl stitches as knit because they are worked in the stitch below in the next row anyway so it seemed pointless purling and I spotted one tutorial title which I didn’t watch but it was working fishermans rib all knit no purl and just logically decided I don’t need the purls. It’s worked out fine so far but do I need to alter this before I start the tubular bind off? Does it make a difference? Do I work the bind off in the row below? And is that just the RS row below or also the WS row below? I see more videos for 1 x 1 rib rather than fishermans rib or brioche so I’m confused when to work below, if at all.

Thanks

Hi @salmonmac and/or anyone who knows how to do a tubular bind off.
I could do with some help getting started please. My selvedge is in the way of following the tutorial and I don’t know how to get rid of the selvedge or bind it off.

Thanks so much

Is the selvedge a single stitch or more? Does it become part of a seam?

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Thank you.
Yes, there’s more info in the previous post above.
It’s a single purl stitch at beginning and end of the RS row (it’s a normal knit on the WS row, so a single reverse stockinette selvedge each end), it will be used up in a seam. The second stitch is the fisherman’s rib k1b stitch.
I also don’t know if I’m to sew the bind off into the row below or the stitch on the needle.

Are you using the invisible ribbed bind off? I’ve used it on k1p1 ribs. You could test out a row of k1p1 then the bind off or as you suggest, working into the stitch below on the k1b sts. It may be best to make a swatch here.
I’ve done brioche (same result as fisherman’s) but the pattern called for inches of ribbing in k1p1 either at neck or sleeves so it was simple to use the ribbed bind off.

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Yes, that’s the one I was trying, the in you linked for me


Then I looked for sewn bind off, tubular bind off and Italian bind of for fisherman’s rib or brioche. Everything seems to start with a knit stitch.
I think it was Norman, nimble needles, had a tutorial which said tubular bind off or sewn bind off was great for brioche but it must start with a knit stitch and the the instruction was for 1 x 1 rib rather than brioche.

I do have a swatch but just stuck on getting started on the bind off.

Can you work the first two sts together to start? The first step is slip as if to knit so just slip both off the needle as one stitch.

OK, thanks so much, I’ll try that.
I’ve tried working the bind off into the row below which was not successful so I’ll be trying again. For the trial
have just done I put the selvedge on a marker just to hold it out of the way so I could try the bind off. Some of the bind off row just kind of fell apart, it was a disaster.
I thought if I worked it all a row below it would be the same as working into the stitch and its yo pair of brioche but it seems I was wrong.
It was this photo tutorial I tried as it’s got a brioche section.
https://www.interweave.com/article/knitting/how-to-italian-bind-off-ribbing-brioche/

I might try proper brioche next rather than fishermans rib so I have then yarn overs in place. Perhaps that makes a big difference for which strands are locked into the bind off.

Thanks again.
I’ll keep trying.

It’s probably easier with brioche because the yarn over is on the needle. For the stitch below you have to be sure to put the needle into both sts. Good luck with it. I’m sure you’ll get it to work or else invent a new bind off!

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Ha ha, I’m not up to any inventing!

I’ve discovered the problem was working the bind off in all the stitches the row below rather than just the knit stitches.
I’ve learned how to do brioche now instead, and figured out how to transition form half fisherman’s rib into brioche which I’ll need to do. And I had another go a the bindnoff but with the brioche. It worked. I used a different colour to practise with and wasn’t keen on how it looked but I think that was due to using a second colour so the next test will be with the same colour (now i kjow where rhe sewing goes). Putting the selvedge in with the first stitch seamed to work, thank you.

I’m moving forward now, thanks for the help in getting me started.

I had one more tricky bit which was the very end of the row, when there is a set of repeats in sewing, how does the end work?

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You can continue the end sts as if you had worked 2 more phantom sts.
Glad you’ve got it working!

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Thanks so much, that will help on my next trial.

Thanks for sharing.