I think they’d better be watching their Ps and Qs. I can see DCFS or the equivalent using their name choices as proof that they are not parents who have the kid’s welfare in mind.
Ditto.
I think they’d better be watching their Ps and Qs. I can see DCFS or the equivalent using their name choices as proof that they are not parents who have the kid’s welfare in mind.
Ditto.
I completely agree with this. I think its a form of child abuse and if the parents love the name sooooo much they should change their own name.
You gotta love the irony in the article where it states that Shoprite employees defended their actions by stating that the Campbells had previously requested swastikas on the cake. Two paragraphs later Campbell states he was raised by racists but won’t raise his kids this way. Yea ok what is his definition of a racist then?
My sister grew up with a “unique” name and being twins it was like a social experiment to see how differently people treated us since I had a plain jane name. People do treat you differently because of a “unique” name whether people consciously realize it or not.
Yes I agree the parents are attention seekers and they are using their children to get it.Really sad that the kids will have to pay
I am having a hard time with this because I hate judging without knowing everything so I found another article that was much longer. http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf?/base/news-0/122923112231930.xml&coll=3&thispage=1
Apparently Child Services has been involved already, so apparently Child Services has concerns as well. They made the family remove the swastikas from the cars for the children safety.
Oooh and I hate saying this but I think this guy is extremely mentally unbalanced from the abuse he had as a kid. It is not normal to have skull with a swastika unless your anthropologist. I am not sure what abuse his wife has been through. But these people obviously need some help.
Those poor poor kids. They have a tough road ahead of them.
I just found that link, too. I don’t know how he can say the kids won’t be teased or suffer abuse when they start school! Kids who are different get teased whether it’s big ears, birthmarks, obesity or a the name of a despised man from the past. Sometimes they get teased for no apparent reason. It’s a sad fact of life.
I can only hope that these kids aren’t so severely emotionally damaged by the time they become adults that they are able to petition the court for a name change once they hit 18.
You are so right about that. School is tough. Seriously why make it even worse?
You what really stinks about this? those poor kids is really going to hate history class. I LOVED history class.
From my reading of the article, the family lives in New Jersey, Not Pennsylvania. But though that distinction gives some comfort, it makes no difference to your point. (I’m native Pennsylvanian, please “don’t tread on [us].” )
My wife is a teacher and has encountered students with the following names:
Eric Thered <sirname> (parents pronounce it as “the red”)
Shi-Thead <sirname> (Hint: Shift the hyphen to the right one letter.)
Vagina (pronounced va-GEE-nah but using the common spelling)
Having several RNs in the extended family, we have many similar stories from them and their colleagues. Common story is that nurses present for birth and neonatal care ask the parents about specific spellings and why they chose the name when there maybe negative connotations to the name. Sometimes parent(s) are ignorant of the meanings of the words, other times it is the parent(s) choice.
It’s a touchy and dicy issue, the parent(s) ingnorant of the meaning might have the meanings explained. But the choice of name is that of the parent(s). :shrug:
As other have expressed, I feel sorry for the children.
One pitfall that can be harder to spot is the initials or monogram forming a negative word. With a sirname beginning with ‘S’ forget naming your daughter Amy Sue or any other choices with similar initials. :doh:
–Jack :guyknitting:
I have to agree with everyone in the sense that KIDS are mean enough without adults getting involved…
Perhaps the young ones he goes to school with won’t understand the meaning…but I believe it was brought up…it will be taught in school!
Back to KIDS are MEAN…they are…really they are…
I went to a catholic school from Grade 3-7 and I didn’t go through most of the motions…(communion etc) and I got picked on bad…but truth be told…I was picked on from the day I set foot in the school…what was I …like 8? Nobody knew me better then from a hole in the wall…and I was teased relentlessly! The fact that I didn’t go through the motions was just yet another hurling stone!
Time moves on, I went to a new school/city for half of grade 7 and onward…and I realized that I wasn’t the loser the other school had made me feel like…but that 5 years that I was rejected by the other kids really had an impact…and that was ONLY 5 years…can you imagine…
The point I am making is most kids aren’t interested in you for you…they are interested in finding something to prop themselves up…and if that happens to be at the expense of you…then so be it!
It is funny, cause a lot of the ppl I had problems with then, are on my Facebook now…and they are appologetic.
I disagree. The names are repulsive and any parents that would name their children that have problems. BUT if the children are loved and cared for, it’s a lot more than they would get in the foster care system. Taking away custody seems to be the answer for everything now days. There is a family we know who’s son was taken away for homeschooling him (even in accordance with all the regulations for their state). And because this is happening so often, the system is filled with children and because they are losing custody faster than they can be placed with adoptive families, they get placed in foster homes with abusive parents or 80 - 90 year old foster parents who can’t take care of them.
Not necessarily true. I personally know couples who are foster parents not only to help the kids who need it, but to possibly adopt a foster child who needs a family. Adoption is tough - the wait, the not knowing if the birth mother will change her mind, etc. They’ve applied to China as well. These people want to be parents - and biologically aren’t able to be. They are wonderful, caring people who are a safe haven for a child/children in need. Not all foster parents are monsters or senior citizens. Cut them some slack, will you?
Please remember to keep this thread civil. This kind of topic brings out strong feelings and we need to remember to respect each others opinions and feelings.
I read that article the other day. How crazy are these parents? Maybe when he gets older he can legally change his name to something else.
Just came across an article about a judge in New Zealand who made a child a ward of court because her parents gave her a stupid name
Really…what are ppl thinking?
I dont think she was made a ward of the state because of the name, I think that was a comment made during a custody hearing where neither parent was considered able and fit to look after the child, and she was made a ward of the state for that reason. (if I remember correctly) One of my nephews got tied up with a strange woman, and had two children with her. The first one she wanted to name Robert Prince of Tasmania (???) but was not allowed to by Internal Affairs, but the second one she named Printz. I call him Allen!
We all know that a persons attitude in later life is strongly influenced by their parents during childhood. I know people can make their own minds up about things when they get older but once the foundations of what a child thinks of as ‘normal’ are laid they are hard to undo.
Calling a child Adolf Hitler or Himler isn’t just cruel in terms of the possible embarresment etc that the child may go through (and i would be very surprise if they didnt) but is indicative of the types of things they will be tought and the attitudes they will be surrounded with in their family home. I don’t agree with taking children away at the drop of a hat but i am glad that social services have been involved alreay and i hope they continue to be so that these childeren get the social educaion they need and the support to get through any childhood bullying they will encounter because of their parents behaviour
The names these people chose for their children say volumes about their mental condition and social beliefs. While they have a right to their beliefs they are obviously some sick people who are in need of some serious mental health treatment.
I feel sorry for the their offspring.
It seems the local authorities have found some reason to intervine:
I hope the childeren are ok and in a safe caring environment.