What's the dif between "YO" and "YF"?

Hi everyone:hug: I am working a pattern from “Debbie Bliss”, her YO’s and YF look the same to me:zombie: she even has illustrated instructions…What am I missing? I checked the Glossary here, Amy says YO a.k.a YF…so what the diff??? Thank you

YO is an increase–the result of moving the yarn forward and knitting the next stitch; or wrapping the yarn around the right needle again for a yo before a purl.

YF is just yarn forward. Sometimes you won’t create a YO when you move the yarn foward. So if the directions say YF, just do that, and see what the next step is.

Hi Ingrid…the next step is to k2tog…I am working on a “lace” pattern, so I realize I will be making a hole…right? Thank you

Yes, the YF will create the YO and give you an eyelet and off-set the decrease of the K2tog. OK? OK? :teehee:

:yay: :waving: Thank you!!

Are there yo and yf both in the pattern, both making the same eyelet? Why would you use both? Why not just one? :??:shrug:

British revenge for the Revolution? :shrug::rofl:

Nope, just YF, but to me (newbie) they look the same…since the illustration are in black and white. that’s why I posted the question…but Ingrid has it right…

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Sometimes knitting patterns seem to be written in some ancient language that you need the Rosetta Stone and a good grammar book to make sense of. YF and YO probably seemed like something everyone would naturally assume were the same thing, but I find that without this forum, I’d be lost pretty much all the time due to assumptions like this.

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Ingrid you are truly wonderful !!!