My mom has fallen in love with the patrons sws, ww, and wants a vest out of it. This vest would be PERFECT, but the guage is wrong. Her bust is 36, if I went up a size could it work? I’m getting 4 stitches in st. stitch to the inch, and they’re getting 3 with their yarn. Help please!
You could go up a needle size to try for gauge, but if you don’t like the fabric you could make a larger size. There’s just no guarantee that the larger size will be the ‘right’ size.
I always like to recommend this technique for knitting an existing pattern to a different gauge. The pattern you linked is rated ‘mellow’ which means that it’s fairly straight forward so it likely wouldn’t be too complicated to adjust the pattern using the above method. Depends how brave you’re feeling, though!! :teehee: I agree, that vest pattern would be perfect for Patons SWS.
I tried 11’s the largest size i have in my kp options and that made it 3 1/2 stitches per inch, and pretty loose. Thanks though.
I just finished re-writing the back…that’s alota work-hope it works (my math I mean), thanks
Any ideas on how to make the armholes closer to the armpit-not so low?
Don’t make the armholes as long from where you start them to where you BO for the shoulders. If it says 10" in the pattern, you might want to do 9". Any chance you could measure mom or one of her sweaters/vests?
sue
yes, thank you. I can measure her this weekend. I must have had a brain fart, because that totally makes sense, to not measure as long as the pattern before bo for the armholes. Thanks again. I feel like an idiot. :oops:
Is it top down, or bottom up? If it’s bottom up, you BO for the underarm then you’re knitting the armholes which you’ll want to shorten. Top down, yes, shorten before the underarm.
Oh, and bottom up – you BO for the underarm, then you’ll be knitting a few rows that say dec at armhole edge x times, then knit plain without decs for X inches. It’s the X inches you’ll want to do less of.
sue
Thank you for the guage changer website, but do you know what to do for the decreases when it says k2tog?I’m multiplying each stitch by 1.6. so instead of casting on 58 I multiply by 1.6 and get 92, butwhere it says slip 1 should I multiply by 1.6 also, and slip 2? and what do I do with the k2tog? I am really wanting this to work and we’ve changed vests, Mom found one she likes better… (my st gauge is 1.6 stitches and 1.75 rows
my garter gauge is 1.6 stitches and 1.63 rows.)
we have 480 grams or 660 yards, not sure how to tell if this is going to be enough yarn.
If it’s saying k2tog at the armhole edge or somewhere, just do it that way. You may have to adjust the number of rows between decs, either doing more or less. You don’t have to make yourself crazy with the math.
Are you making the Lion vest? If it’s another, post the section you’re wondering about and we can help you figure it out all at once.
sue
yes, I’m doing the Lion denim vest. I think I got it but y’all are more than welcome to check my math. 
Armhole shaping Continue in Garter st only,
bind off 3 (3, 4, 5, 5, 5) sts at beg of next 2 rows. Decrease row (RS) Slip 1, k 1, ssk, knit
to last 4 sts, k2tog, k 2. Repeat dec every other row 5 (7, 7, 8, 10, 12) times more - 38
(40, 44, 46, 48, 50) sts. Work in this way until armhole measures 7 (7 1/2, 8, 8 1/2, 9, 9 ½
)", ending after a WS row. Shoulder and Back neck shaping: Next row (RS) Slip 1, k 9
(10, 11, 12, 12, 13), turn. Work these 10 (11, 12, 13, 13, 14) sts until armhole measures 8
(8 1/2, 9, 9 1/2, 10, 10 1/2)". Bind off. Join 2nd ball of yarn and bind off center 18 (18,
20, 20, 22, 22) sts, k to end. Work on last 10 (11, 12, 13, 13, 14) sts to match other side.
Bind off.
my stitch multiplier for both garter and stock. is 1.6
my row multiplier for garter is 1.63 and stock. is 1.75
thanks so much. y’all are angels :notworthy:
Ack! I don’t adjust patterns by multipliers… I figure out how many sts/inch I get, and translate that into what they want. That’s sort of a multiplier but anyway…
For the decrease part of the armhole shaping, do the k2tog/ssk every other row like the pattern says. I don’t know which size you’re knitting, so you’d do the decs until the remaining stitches measure the size you need.
Btw, did you ever think of making it in a different size as written? That way you don’t have these kind of complicated math things. You’re getting 3½sts/in instead of 4, and you want a 36, right? 3½ x18 comes out to 63 sts for the back - the second size has a CO of 64, so that would be very close to what you need. Then you just follow all the instructions for the second size.
sue
I did, but when I used the multiplier I came up with a need to cast on 92. and mom’s bust size is 36. I’m getting 5 stitches to the inch, 5x18.4=92. Do you think if I followed the largest size stitches and did the armhole and neck decreases for the smallest inches that that would work? I tell you what, I’m glad this is for my Mom, because I dont think I’d go to this much trouble for anyone else, including myself. Or am I making this harder than it really is?
the second size is for a 40" chest and the last is for a 56" chest…the smallest is for a 38" chest.
Yabbut… she’s getting 5 sts/inch not 3, so that makes the sizing different.
So you’re adding about an inch for ease? Another way to do it is look at the number of stitches added on for each size. That’s 6, so you’d do 94 sts; that would give about an inch and a half for ease. Then yes, work the armhole and neckline shaping a little smaller, but I don’t know that I’d do the smallest size.
Change the garter stitches on the edges to 5, not 3, and the lower g st border would be more rows too (translate into inches, would be about 1¼). Make all row counts equivalent to yours in inches, and when you get to the armhole shaping, BO 6 or 7, then decrease for the inches you need for the length of it.
I think. See what you think of that idea.
sue
ok now I’m stuck. Susieeq, thanks. Here’s the part where Im stuck.
pattern reads=after armhole shapiing, decrease row… slip 1 k1, ssk, k to last 4, k2tog, k2 ok I understand that. here we go, repeat dec every other row _ times–stitches. work in this way until armhole measures 9". shoulder and back neck shaping; s1, k, turn. work these _ sts until armhole measures 9". bind off. join second ball of yarn and bind off center _ sts, k to end. work on last _ stitches to match other side. bind off.
for the armhole, didn’t I just decrease for 9" for the armhole? then why am I working those stitches till the armhole measures 9"? I’m confused.
if you feel adventurious I need numbers to fill in the _ spaces.
gauge in garter stitch (since all this is worked in that stitch) is
20sts + 36 rows = 4"
oh and for the decrease row, my math says i need to work 40 rows of dec. that’s working 80 rows total and dec. every other row.
tia for your help, this pattern is making me crazy.
:!!!: :wall: :?? :gah: :whoosh: 
hey where’s the one that pulls his hair out?
Ok, the pattern reads:
“Work in this way until armhole measures 7 (7½, 8, 8½, 9, 9 ½ )”, ending after a WS row. Shoulder and Back neck shaping: Next row (RS) Slip 1, k 9 (10, 11, 12, 12, 13), turn. Work these 10 (11, 12, 13, 13, 14) sts until armhole measures 8 (8½, 9, 9½, 10, 10½)". Bind off."
First, `work until armhole measures 9"…’ that 9" measurement is the 5th size. Then it has you continue for another inch - 10" is in the 5th size. So I think you’re reading it incorrectly. If 9 inches is the finished length you want the armhole, then you should only decrease until the measurement is 8". If you need more decreasing, but not the length, then when you get to 9", go immediately to the BO.
Hope that’ll hold you, have to go to work in a little while and won’t be back until this evening.
sue
thank you, now I have the directions complete for the back of the vest and will begin working on revising the directions for the front of the vest.
hope you had a good day at work.
Yep, just follow the basic instructions for right and left fronts, matching the shaping to what you did on the back.
Work was fine, I’m still training and by the last hour when the brains get a little overloaded, a couple people in class can distract the instructor by getting her going on stories. We still haven’t covered all the material though, and I hope we get enough before we’re out and have to actually take calls (it’s a customer service call center).
sue