Hi
I am knitting a rug. And intially 4 rows are just garter stitch. Then 1 row is purl. After this row the following pattern begins. And I am not v sure if I understand it
[FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1][FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1][LEFT]Using 3.75mm needle, start to work
the woven pattern. Using B, * insert the tip of
the right hand needle through the first stitch
as if to purl, knit the 2nd stitch and leave on
the needle, then knit the first stitch through the
back of the loop, slip both stitches tog from the[/LEFT]
left hand needle; rep from *
Hi!
this is a funky stitch. I will have to try it with some yarn if I want to make better words up for it.
But basically you are working stitch 2 through stitch one, then work stitch one and then take them off the needle.
right needle goes through stitch one, grabs the front leg of stitch 2 and knits it. Nothing leaves the left needle. But one stitch is made on the right needle.
then you take your right needle out of the stitches on the left (but leave those original stitches there). Put the right needle back into the first stitch on the left needle and knit that through the back loop.
NOW take stitches 1 and 2 off the left needle. Keep doing this thing over.
I have not tried it out. Just different words for what is written there.
Thanx
U have made it much simpler… i guess i need to try it too to understand it better… i m confused at the back loop part rt now
also will this not increase the no of original stitches?
What hyperactive said is very close but one important part is wrong.
Put the RHN (right hand needle) into the first stitch purl wise, but don’t do anything to that first stitch, just go through it. Go into the second stitch in the normal way and knit it to the point where you have pulled up a new stitch loop, but don’t take anything off the LHN (left hand needle) yet. Now you have one st loop on the RHN [I]and[/I] a strand from going through the first stitch, you also have 2 loops going over the LHN. Don’t take the RHN out of the stitches (this is where she was off) or everything you’ve done comes undone. Instead you must rotate the RHN tip around until it is behind the LHN and put the tip of the RHN into the first stitch on the LHN right to left, and knit it there. Now you take the whole works off the LHN, and you have 3 stitch loops on the RHN. So this is an increase. You change 2 stitches into 3 stitches. You will probably do something on the next row to get the stitch count back down.
This explanation covered how to do the knit through the back loop that you wondered about.
This is kind of tricky, but not too bad if you knit loose enough. If you knit real tight I think it will be very difficult.
hyperactive, you did a good job for not having the yarn and needles in hand.
hi
Thnx for the help… But I m not sure about the increase part… As it is a rug… Nd i m not sure whether it shud have an increase/ decrease pattern… nxt few rows are as follows … I am confused thr also… will u have a look?
[FONT=UniversSB-Medium][SIZE=1][FONT=UniversSB-Medium][SIZE=1][LEFT]Row 7: [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1][FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1]Using 5mm needle and B purl.[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=UniversSB-Medium][SIZE=1][FONT=UniversSB-Medium][SIZE=1][LEFT]Row 8: [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1][FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1]Using 3.75mm needle and B, k1, *knit
2nd st through first st, then knit first st in back
of loop as before; rep from * across row to last[/LEFT]
st, k1.
[FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1][FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1][LEFT]The last 4 rows make up the woven patt and[/LEFT]
should be rep until row 71 changing cols thus:
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Hi Prajakta, what I said before must be all wrong. With the pattern like that over the 4 rows you wouldn’t want an increase. Also doing what I said didn’t make any kind of a woven look of any kind, and not even interesting looking in the least. :lol:
So I started trying to figure out how to do what they say and not make an increase. I thought maybe hyperactive was going in the right direction when she said take the needle out, after all. Maybe you take the needle out and don’t put it back loop you went “through”, but put it back in the remaining loop and then knit the first stitch through the first loop. :?? But they don’t seem to be saying that and if they wanted that you could accomplish the same thing by slipping over the first stitch and knitting the second and then knitting the first stitch through the back loop.
I tried that: skip the first stitch and knit the second, then go back and knit the first stitch through the back loop. If you do that and then purl a row and then offset it by knitting one and doing it again you at least get something interesting going on, and it looks a little “woven” maybe. But I have no idea if that is what they intend. Probably not.
You might try that and see what you think of it. Do you have a picture of what the finished stitch is supposed to look like that is good enough for us to see it very well?
The short answer is that I have no idea what they want you to do. :lol:
They’re twisted sts. This part -
“Using B, * insert the tip of the right hand needle through the first stitch as if to purl, knit the 2nd stitch and leave on the needle, then knit the first stitch through the back of the loop, slip both stitches tog from the[FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1][FONT=UniversSB-Light][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]left hand needle; rep from *”[FONT=UniversSB-Light][SIZE=1][FONT=UniversSB-Light][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] - means to put the R needle into the first st as though you were going to purl it, but twist the needle to knit the 2nd st, leave them on the needle and knit the first st through the back leg. That completes the stitch.
The next part -
“k1, *knit 2nd st through first st, then knit first st in back of loop as before; rep from * across row to last st, k1.”
Prajakta, I think I figured it out finally. :woot: The picture helped. We were doing it almost right but there is one little key which I will add to the directions.
Put the RHN (right hand needle) into the first stitch purl wise, but don’t do anything to that first stitch, just go through it. Go into the second stitch in the normal way and knit it to the point where you have pulled up a new stitch loop, but don’t take anything off the LHN (left hand needle) yet. Now you have one stitch loop on the RHN (right hand needle) and a strand from going through the first stitch, you also have 2 loops still going over the LHN. Don’t take the RHN out of the stitches.
(Here is the new part) Now you want to rotate the RHN so that you can knit the first stitch behind the LHN as I said before in the first response, [B]but [/B] as you rotate the needle be sure you take the RHN tip [I]under[/I] the strand that is the first stitch you went through. You actually need to move the RHN tip under the first stitch loop before you start rotating to get you in position to knit the first stitch through the back loop.
If you are having any problems with the “knit through the back loop” there is a video of that on this site. But to describe it again you rotate the RHN tip around so that you can knit the first stitch loop behind the LHN, you insert the RHN right to left into the part of the loop nearest to the tip of the LHN. It kind of feels like you are doing it as if to purl instead of knit. Then you yarn around and knit it like usual.
Try that out on a sample and see if that doesn’t work and look like the picture. Mine did. Be sure on every other row of this pattern stitch that you k1 before beginning the pattern stitch and end with a k1.
*So do this first row of the pattern starting right off with the special pattern stitch. Purl a row. Next row, k1, pattern across to the last stitch, k1. Purl a row. Repeat from the * changing colors as you want.
I think you should be able to get it now. Let me know if you do.
Thnx… i think i got a fairly good idea … I now know how to knit thru back loop
the only place i m confused now is … rotate rhn… when i rotate rhn it comes out of 1st stitch… although the stitch is now an “X” over the 2nd knit stitch
By this do you mean the stitch loop on the RHN wants to fall off?
You don’t have to rotate much, or at all to get into position to knit through the back loop (this rotating was more for the first way I thought you had to do it). But it is a bit tricky to keep the stitch loop from coming off the needle when you go under that first stitch loop so that you can knit through the back loop. When you pull the RHN through under the strand go slowly, you can put your right index finger on that stitch loop (this is easier to do if you knit Continental, but will work for English as well) as soon as you get it out from under the strand, then proceed with knit through the back loop.
The goal is to go through that first stitch, knit the second one, dip under the first stitch strand and knit the first stitch through the back loop.
Nope… the knit stitch on the rhn stays intact… the only conern is… when i insert the needle purl wise into first stitch… the frontloop is over the rhn… nd when i rotate the rhn… this front loop of the first stitch falls… in other words… my needle is no longer inside the 1st stitch …
i dunno whether i m xplainin it correctly
When you insert the RHN into the first stitch, you are sticking it through that first stitch loop purl wise and just passing through it. After the needle goes through that first stitch loop move it directly into the second stitch right where you would knit that stitch normally. Yarn around and knit that stitch to the point you have pulled up the new stitch loop and stop. If you move the RHN through the first loop and right into the second stitch the loop has no chance of falling off. After you knit the stitch it will not fall off either. Then dip the RHN tip under the front leg of the first stitch until the RHN is to the right of the two stitch loops on the LHN. Then move it slightly so that you can knit into the back of the first stitch loop.
Prajakta, You don’t sound very certain. Have you gotten it figured out or have you given up on getting any help from me? If you still don’t have it, I have one last ditch effort. I could get my husband to take some still pictures of me doing it and see if that helps. I can’t do a video as we don’t have the equipment. If I took pictures it would be nice to know which style of knitting you do so I could show it that way, as in do you hold the yarn in your left or right hand?
You’re welcome for any help I may have given, but I’m wanting to be of real help, not just attempted help.
Thats v sweet of u… I think i have got it now… But if u can post some still pics… tht wud b awesome and will help me to b xtra certain of wat i m doin is correct…
Okay, if you understand this is probably not needed, but here are some pictures. It is pretty hard to show with stills, but we did the best we could. A video would have been better.
This first picture shows where I have moved the RHN through the first stitch loop and has my needle poised to go into the second stitch so I can knit it.
This one is right after I have knit that second stitch and have the needle ready to go under the strand of the first stitch.
This just after I have gone under the first stitch strand and come out to the right of it.
This one is trying to show where I am going to knit through the back loop of the first stitch. (I tried turning the fabric so you could see the back, but I couldn’t see that it was helpful that way, so chose this photo.)
This one is showing when I have completed the stitch, and it shows what the work looks like after I have done a few rows.
I don’t know if those help much, but it is the best I can do.
With the pattern like that over the 4 rows you wouldn’t want an increase. Also doing what I said didn’t make any kind of a woven look of any kind, and not even interesting looking in the least. :lol:
Have you gotten it figured out or have you given up on getting any help from me? 
If you still don’t have it, I have one last ditch effort. I could get my husband to take some still pictures of me doing it and see if that helps. I can’t do a video as we don’t have the equipment. If I took pictures it would be nice to know which style of knitting you do so I could show it that way, as in do you hold the yarn in your left or right hand?
