# Sleeve inc (need help reading pattern)

Hello,

I’m a newbie to this forum and also recently “new” to knitting.

I apologize for this wordy posting but, am hopeful that someone can help? Thankyou:)

…regarding a basic knitted sweater.
The pattern for the sleeves reads:

“…proceed in stocking st increasing 1st each end of needle on 5th and following 4th rows…”

Hmmmmm!!!,… that means: increase 1 st on both ends on the 5th row…and…then start counting rows again…1, 2, ,3,…and on the forth row, I increase 1 st both ends of needle again…right?

So, my question is:

From that point do I continue counting rows 1, 2, 3, 4, and increase on the next fifth…and then 1 row, 2 row, 3 row and increase on the following forth? …and then another FIFTH row followed by forth…and fifth, then forth???
1, 2, 3, 4, (5th) inc, 1, 2, 3, (4th) inc, 1, 2, 3, 4, (5th) inc, 1, 2, 3, (4th)inc, 1, 2, 3, 4 (5) inc…

OR, does the pattern mean I should increase on the fifth row…and continue increasing 1 st (both ends)on the following 4th rows (and every following forth row until the required amount of stitches have been increased?..)

(…1 row, 2, row, 3 row, 4 row, increase on fifth, 1 row, 2, row, 3 row, increase on forth, 1 row, 2, row, 3 row and increase on forth, 1, row, 2 row, 3 row and increase on forth)
1, 2, 3, 4, (5th)inc, 1, 2, 3, (4th)inc, 1, 2, 3, (4th)inc, 1, 2, 3, (4th)inc…

Hi.

This is the same (sleeves)…but, from a different pattern…

(after ribbing the cuff) …st st for 4 rows, {35 stitches on needle}

(pattern)~~~~“Inc 1 st each end of needle on next and following 4th rows to 55 sts, then every following 6th to 63 sts”…

so, that means that…
… increase on the fifth row and then …on the following forth rows (only???..1, 2, 3, 4,5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4) until the required amount of sts have been increased {55)
…then every following 6th to 63 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6…)

Correct?

I hope you can decipher this because I’d appreciate your assistance, please?

Hmmmmm!!!,… that means: increase 1 st on both ends on the 5th row…and…then start counting rows again…1, 2, ,3,…and on the forth row, I increase 1 st both ends of needle again…right?

Yep, that;s right. After that, just inc on every 4th row. The first ‘inc on 5th row’ was just to get started.

“Inc 1 st each end of needle on next and following 4th rows to 55 sts, then every following 6th to 63 sts”…

Yep, inc on every 4th rows till you get to 55 sts, then switch to increasing on every 6th row until you get 63 sts.

Thankyou for taking time to explain. I have two sleeveless sweaters that are also thankful (I’m not really a vest person)

I haven’t been online since I posted my question.
One of the reasons I started knitting is I wanted a new hobby. I had been on a differing hobby forum (in the “Cafe”) and was noticing that I was enjoying a disproportionate amount of my lesiure time online. I like to even out my activities and have a artistic background. I have an interest in crafts. I paint and make things from paper. I enjoy some sewing and cross-stitch, too.

A year ago (the end of last winter), my youngest asked if I would knit a scarf. I had to re-learn knitting (my previous project was a scarf that I knit in elementary school:knitting: )
I took a break from the woolens during summer months and picked up the hobby at the start of fall '09. I’ve since made three hat and scarf sets, a Sackboy (a video game character toy) and now with this info (thanks Suzeeq) I’ll soon have a couple of sweaters finished, too.

Hello again,

Thankyou for helping me with my “sleeve” question and I have another, please assist?
(in this instance, it’s shoulder shaping …but, it also written the same on the pattern for the sleeves)

I was wondering when a pattern says “dec at edge”…
do you do it EXACTLY at the beg/end of the row?"

I’ve realized that I have worked my dec one stitch from the edge? Is it necessary to re-do or will it still workable when I go to finishing?

(I used k2tog on k rows and p2tog on purl rows…because from my understanding when pattern says “dec” it usually means to use that method, correct?)

I usually dec on the edge sts, but many people don’t, putting them 1 or even 2 sts in, to make seaming easier. It just means ‘dec at the side of your work not in the middle’ really. So you’re fine.

Most decs will be on the RS rows, though you may have instructions that have you dec on every 3 or 5 or 7 rows too. It generally looks better if the decs are ‘paired’ or matched, so on a K row you’d dec by ssk/skp at the beg of row and k2tog at the end. On a p row (that is also a WS row, not rev stockinette) the dec’s slant doesn’t show but it will on the K side. P2tog is the reverse of k2tog so it should be done at the beg of the row with a ssp done at the end.

That’s great!

(hee) I must getting better at THIS because I actually understood what you wrote (and feeling better about pattern reading, too)

I like how the ssk/skp and k2tog combo looks and will utilize that RS, (thanks for the clarification of WS with ssp, p2tog, too)

…I’ll continue with the edge, as is. Thanks.