Short rows

A picture is a good idea I’ll see if I can do that Thank you so much I always write down any repeats , so that I know where I am .

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The wraps are good at hiding the holes that form when you turn. On a subsequent row, you pick up the wraps. This works especially well in stockinette stitch where you knit one row, purl one row. It’s not so necessary however in garter stitch (knit all the rows) because the bumps essentially hide the holes.
Many patterns recommend just turning (as GG suggested) and continuing with the knitting rather than work any kind of short row technique. The videos from Suzanne Bryan give you a bit of an idea for the effectiveness of the various techniques.
See how it goes with another try and if you aren’t happy, maybe we can come up with another work around.

I don’t recall where I first came across slipping the stitch after turning, which I guess in effect is wrapping the last worked stitch. Suzanne doesn’t demonstrate it as I recall, nor do I remember Roxanne Richardson showing turns that way in garter stitch. I looked at my work and realized that it eased the transition much the same as w&t by not having two rows at the turn. There is the gap, one row of knitting, then two rows of knitting. I can’t really explain it but maybe you can suss out what I’m trying to say.

I don’t think shadow wraps or yarn over short rows have been mentioned. For someone exploring short rows they’re worth looking at. I use a yo short row for the last knit side turn rather than a GSR double stitch because when I resolve it on the knit side it just looks better. I’ve worked more short row shaping than should be considered legal because nothing fits me without it.

Ha! I found this. I have been slipping purlwise and it looks like slipping knitwise in this video. I’ll have to try it that way.

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I’m sorry it has taken me this long to write back to you I’m trying your method of not wrapping , just turning, then slipping the first stitch , and knitting the rest of the row. I’m still getting a big gap at the slipped stitch . Do you have any idea of what I’m doing wrong??

Could you share a photo of the problem?

I’m going to try to send you a picture I’m very embarrassed! If I only work on these 18 stitches , I have huge gaps on either side The pattern is by purl soho It’s called Garter earflap hat I’m making the toddler size

It’s on Ravelry

Don’t think twice about posting the photo. I have piles of swatches and projects that had very trying beginnings. Holes, hah! That was the least of it.

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It looks like you may be turning at the same place instead of working to x many stitches before the marker. The directions for row 1 are to work to 7sts before the next marker then wrp-t.
Next Row: Knit to 7 (8, 9, 10, 11, 12) stitches before next marker, wrp-t.

Every line thereafter gives directions for the Next Two Rows. Is it possible that you’re not working 2 rows?
Next Two Rows (all sizes): Knit to 6 stitches before next marker, wrp-t.

(I’ve skipped down to the next direction for all sizes but if you were making the large size you would follow the row after the initial row.)

Is it possible that I’m not completing the entire rows ! Also, I’m ending up purling when I’m only supposed to knitting. I think I’ve only been working the 18 stitches, instead of completing the entire round.

You won’t be completing the round until the short rows are over. Then you’ll only be knitting around to the second earflap. You’re correct that you shouldn’t be purling. Work to the given number of sts before the marker. Slip the next stitch to the right needle, move the yarn to the front (i.e. to face you) then slip the stitch back to the left needle and turn. The yarn will then be at the back (facing away from you) ready to knit.
Which size are you making?

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Ok I wasn’t slipping the stitch Maybe that’s why I’m getting huge gaps ? I’m making the toddler size, so I have 18 stitches for the left ear flap. So, I should only be working those 18 stitches ??

Thank you. So for the 2nd size, the toddler hat you’ll have 18sts between the markers but you won’t be working across all 18 until the end. You’ll be working across a subset of those sts each row.

For R1 knit across 10sts. That’s 8sts before the 2nd marker, slip the next stitch, yarn to the front between the needles and turn the knitting. Now knit across to 8sts before the next marker and repeat the wrp-t (wrap & turn). You’re knitting back and forth between the 2 left earflap markers.

R1. Next Row (right side): Knit to 7 (8, 9, 10, 11, 12) stitches before second marker, wrp-t.
R2.Next Row: Knit to 7 (8, 9, 10, 11, 12) stitches before next marker, wrp-t.

After the turn, knit to 7sts before the next marker, wrp-t and repeat that heading toward the next marker, all within the left earflap.

R3&4 Next Two Rows: Knit to – (7, 7, 7, 7, 7) stitches before next marker, wrp-t.

Then move on to the next pair of short rows. Each time you’ll be getting closer to knitting the full 18sts of the earflap.
R5&6 Next Two Rows (all sizes): Knit to 6 stitches before next marker, wrp-t.

Thank you so much for all this help! I’m going to start all over again, and follow your directions . I shouldn’t have to bother you again. I don’t know why this confused me so much

Don’t think twice about asking and asking again. We all want you to succeed and make this adorable hat. If it’s still not working, come back and I’ll try a diagram (not pretty but maybe helpful).

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You’re not a bother! I’ve had to ask and ask and ask before I got things figured out. It’s how we learn. I’m not at all sure there’s anything more confusing than short row instructions before having done them enough you just know how to do it. It took me a long time to get even pretty good with short rows. I still can’t explain them to someone else very well. Thank goodness salmonmac can.

Thank you so much You really went into detail for me

Thank you so much I thought I was a decent knitter until I couldn’t figure this out!

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You are a knitter. This is just something new and different, something to work out and add to your repertoire.