Reading Short Row Shaping

I am planning on making this shawl: https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/sourwood-shawl

However, I had a look at the pattern, and I am not understanding the instructions for the lower edge, as it seems to contradict the general instructions? It has you placing markers, but then the first row you are to repeat doesn’t reference it, so I am unsure if you are supposed to w&t 2 stitches short of the marker that got placed, or all but 2 stitches on the needle?

On the one hand, everywhere else that has the short rows, you work all the way to the marker, so if it is meant to be 2 short of the marker before the w&t, that is moving the marker 3 stitches at a time, instead of the 1 it moves of the rest of the thing, which even for the few rows in the bottom edge feels like it shouldn’t be the case? On the other hand, why are you placing a marker at all if you are to be just going across the whole row on the RS anyway?

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This isn’t clear in the pattern but the general directions for the shawl apply to the Honeycomb pattern. The directions for the bottom edge are different.
For the bottom edge, you’ll work to the last 2sts then w&t. The marker placed on the wrong side row is a reminder that you’re 2 stitches away from the end (in case you can’t see the w&t stitch). When you’re 2sts from the end, again, w&t. Each RS row of the bottom edge will leave 1 more stitch unworked. They can hang out on the needle unti you get to the end when you pick up the wraps.

For the Honeycomb pattern you work to the marker, remove it, w&t (the general directions).

I love the honeycomb pattern on shawls, sweaters or dishcloths, no matter. This is going to be lovely.

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Doesn’t that mean wrapping that penultimate stitch like 5 times though? Or am I just still not understanding. Because what you seem to be describing is just the general directions: work to the marker, remove it, w&t, work 1, pm, work on, which doesn’t really match how it is described by my reading?

You won’t be stacking the w&t on the same stitch. You want to knit to the last 2sts. That’s the stitch before the marker and the stitch after the marker. K1 then wrap the next stitch.
This is a photo taken from the WS row. I’ve put markers (blue, pink and green) on the wrapped sts from previous rows. On the RS row, knit the red dot stitch, remove the marker, wrap the yellow dot stitch and turn.

That seems to make sense to me. I went back and forth on this and finally had to try it on the needles to be sure. What do you think?

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I did the same, pulled out some yarn and tested different ways. I definitely don’t think it is meant to be multiple wraps, that ended up looking really weird.

I think they just wrote that bottom section really poorly. but do mean it to follow the general rule of “work to the marker, w&t, then work a stitch before replacing the marker”. And if they meant to bring it in 3 stitches every time, it is just 10 rows, not the biggest deal to have that corner a bit weird.

Working the wrapped sts this way should end with about 95 working sts before you switch to the smaller honeycomb. See how it goes and let us know.

Made it and then forgot about updating, but here it is (with one mistake spot). And yeah, it was the bring it in one stitch each time.

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Spectacular! Those colors are so dramatic and lovely, like stained glass. Thanks for the photo.

That looks great! I had to search for the mistake (incidentally, it looks like a pair of sunglasses, which I thought was amusing), other than that you did a great job on it!

Wow. That’s stunning! It does make me think of stained glass. After reading that the mistake looks like sunglasses I had to go look. Took a long time but I might have found it. You could probably hide it with some of your dark yarn and use a tapestry needle to fill in where, if I actually saw it, the mistake is. I admire your knitting! I vote that we leave perfection to deities.