Problem with this pattern for sweater

#1

I want to knit a sweater, back and forth from bottom to top, but I have a problem understanding parts of the pattern instructions. I would be so grateful if somebody could explain to me what exactly I am to do! :slight_smile:

  1. “Cast on 76 sts. Knit rib for 9 cm. [B]Knit st st for 10 cm. Inc 1 st on both sides 2 times with 10 cm interval => 80 sts.[/B] Knit until body measures 36 cm from cast on edge.”

So, where exactly in those 36 cm am I supposed to increase? At 19 cm and 29 cm from cast on edge? Or at 9 cm and 19 cm from cast on edge? And where exactly - within the row - am I supposed to increase? Simply at the first and the last stich?

  1. This is how I am supposed to shape the armholes:
    "[B]Cast off 5 sts at beg of next 2 rows (each side)[/B] then dec 2 sts in beg of next 4 rows (see dec method) => 62 sts. Work until armhole measures 18 cm."

So, I cast off 5 sts, knit to the end of the row, turn around and cast off 5 sts again? If I do that, the armhole will begin one row lower on one side of the sweater than the other, won’t it? Also, if I try to sew the front and back part together, won’t the sewing edge be uneaven, because again, one edge will have one more row before the armhole begins?

  1. And another problem with the armholes:
    “Cast off 5 sts at beg of next 2 rows (each side) [B]then dec 2 sts in beg of next 4 rows (see dec method) => 62 sts[/B]. Work until armhole measures 18 cm.”

In the beginning of the instructions, under “Decreasing method” the pattern says that “Dec is [B]always done from the right side[/B]. In the beg of row: K2, slip2, K1, pass over. At the end of row: Knit until 4 sts are left, knit 2 together, K2.”

But if I dec “in beg of next 4 rows”, 2 rows will be decreases on the wrong side, right? Or do they mean something else?

Thank you so much for your help with this!

#2
  1. “Cast on 76 sts. Knit rib for 9 cm. [B]Knit st st for 10 cm. Inc 1 st on both sides 2 times with 10 cm interval => 80 sts.[/B] Knit until body measures 36 cm from cast on edge.”

So, where exactly in those 36 cm am I supposed to increase?

[COLOR=Blue]After 9 cm of ribbing, you knit for 10 cm and increase on both sides (you are at 19 cm from cast on edge.) Then knit another 10 cms (29 cm from cast on) and then again at 39 cms from cast on edge.
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2. This is how I am supposed to shape the armholes:
"[B]Cast off 5 sts at beg of next 2 rows (each side)[/B] then dec 2 sts in beg of next 4 rows (see dec method) => 62 sts. Work until armhole measures 18 cm."

So, I cast off 5 sts, knit to the end of the row, turn around and cast off 5 sts again? If I do that, the armhole will begin one row lower on one side of the sweater than the other, won’t it? Also, if I try to sew the front and back part together, won’t the sewing edge be uneaven, because again, one edge will have one more row before the armhole begins?

[COLOR=Blue]Yes, you cast off at the beginning of the rows and the difference won’t be noticeable.[/COLOR]

  1. And another problem with the armholes:
    “Cast off 5 sts at beg of next 2 rows (each side) [B]then dec 2 sts in beg of next 4 rows (see dec method) => 62 sts[/B]. Work until armhole measures 18 cm.”

In the beginning of the instructions, under “Decreasing method” the pattern says that “Dec is [B]always done from the right side[/B]. In the beg of row: K2, slip2, K1, pass over. At the end of row: Knit until 4 sts are left, knit 2 together, K2.”

But if I dec “in beg of next 4 rows”, 2 rows will be decreases on the wrong side, right? Or do they mean something else?

[COLOR=Blue]Ah, patterns can be so confusing! Since they specified that decreases are done on the RS only, you should do your decreases every other row. You would think, though, that they would specify to decrease on the Knit rows in the pattern. Who writes those things, anyway? [/COLOR]

#3

[B]Inc 1 st on both sides 2 times[/B]
That means at the beg and end of the row.

You have to cast on at the beg of a row, and the side that you do first will also be the first side that you do the final cast off at the shoulders. So both armholes will have the same number of rows in them. The one row difference where you start on the sweater body isn’t noticeable at all. All sweater patterns are like this.

If a pattern is originally written in another language, sometimes it isn’t translated quite as perfectly as we’d like.

#4

Very true as I’ve discovered from trying to knit up several Garnstudio Drops Patterns!

In that case, even if the pattern is written in English but is meant for the UK market, it may not translate well.

#5

Thank you for your quick help! :cheering:

I have managed the part about the “increase on both sides” now. However, the armhole is still giving me some trouble. (I swear, if this pullover didn’t look so amazing in the picture… sigh)

First of all, I figured out that the math is not adding up: Before I star the armhole, I have 80 sts. Then I am supposed to cast off 5 sts at the beginning of the next 2 rows (=10 sts) and decrese 1 sts at the beg of the next 4 rows (=4 sts). So I would end up with 80-14=66 sts. However, the pattern says that I should have 62 sts (see my first post no. 3). So, do they possibly mean that I am supposed to decrease a total of 8 sts, 1 at the beginning and end of the next 4 rows each? Or 1 sts at the beginning of the next 8 rows? Which sounds better?

[I][B]EDIT:[/B] Right, I just figured out that I quoted that part wrongly in my first post… It does indeed say “…then dec [B]1 sts[/B] in beg of next 4 rows…”, not 2 sts. Sorry about that! Of course, dec 2 sts in the beg of the rows is another alternative…[/I]

And then we get to the final part of the instructions…

“Cast off 20 middle sts, then work each sholder. Cast off at neck edge 3 sts and at the same time cast off at shoulder edge at the beg of each row from armhole 2 x 9 sts.”

3 sts in one row? Or split them up?

Anyway, I tried to translate this into a pattern, which I attached to this post. Maybe you could have a look at it and tell me if that will work? :yay: I’ll be happy to hear about any improvements!

#6

Cast off at neck edge 3 sts and at the same time cast off at shoulder edge at the beg of each row from armhole 2 x 9 sts."
From the way it is worded there I think it would mean to cast off 3 stitches at the beginning of the row on the neck edge all at once. They write it differently when they want over several rows (like they did at the end of the sentence “2X9”).

#7

Ah, yes, that makes sense. :slight_smile: Thanks!