Measuring from CO

OK…I realize this is only a question a newbie could ask, but here goes. When a pattern calls for you to 'work in pattern until piece measures 4" from CO", do you measure from the top of the needle, or should you begin with the stitches immediately below the needle? Thanks!

Measure up to the needle.

Thanks, Ingrid. So, to be clear, do you mean that I should put the measuring tape just underneath the needle, or up to and including the needle?

Bring it just to under the needle. The stitches on the needle aren’t knit yet, so they don’t count.