Help with toe shaping. Please

I am on the homestretch with my first ever sock! Can anyone help me translating this last set of instructions? Please?

“Dec 1 stitch each side of 2 center stitches of half of the sock stitches next row, then every 3 rounds, 3 times then every 2 rounds, 4 times then every rounds, 3 times.”

A million thanks.

Wow…I don’t know what pattern you are using, but … :zombie: That seems way more confusing that what I’ve done for a sock toe. Is this some crazy sock pattern?

All I can tell you is to think of your sock in halves… you have the front of the foot and the sole. You will be decrease at each end on both halves…so 4 times per decrease round. In the socks I did you decrease every other round …

Here’s Silver’s tutorial if it helps. If it’s a free pattern it helps us help you if you post a link.

http://www.cometosilver.com/socks/SockClass_Toes.htm

That’s just what I was thinking, Jan, as I scrutinized [COLOR=“Blue”][B]the pattern[/B][/COLOR].

I’m going to look at it again…

Thanks for the response.

Yes it is the correct pattern. How did you know?
http://www.chicknits.com/socklove.html

Jan, are you saying I decrease at the start and end of each sock half?

I used silvers tutorial to get me to this point. I will go back to finish it. I just thought I was missing something easy because it was so unclear…and still is. Being so new at this really is hard!!

Thanks for your help!

I can’t get the math to work, scrappy, no matter what I do, LOL! Perhaps part of the problem is that the “translation” for this pattern came from the image below.

As Jan said though, decrease at the start and end of each sock [B]half[/B], every other row on RS - you will do 28 rows if you’re going down to 12 st. You’ll already be on halves if you are on 2 circs, if you’re on DPNs it would be the beginning of one needle, end of next needle, beginning of third needle and end of 4th needle. Then your decreases line up along the sides of your feet - just make sure your are actually working the sides and not the top and bottom! On 2 circs, I usually do an SSK on 2nd st, knit across til 3 st left, K2tog, K1, repeat on other circ.

Forgot to add you may want to measure to make sure you will be in the right ballpark for size, since the original pattern only had about 20 rows decreasing (a little more than 1 1/2" if your rows made gauge), whereas you will have 28 rows (2 1/3"). If you start your decreases where they say, after the 72 rows of stockinette (6"), you may be too long.

Thank you so much for all your work deciphering this for me!
I am actually on three needles (like silver’s tutorial) so I am going to decrease at the end of needle 1, beginning of needle 2, end of needle 2, and beginning of needle 3. Does that sound about right?

I did do 72 rounds of stockinette stitch. As for guage, I think she says that it would be 12 stitches per inch mine are about 12-13 stitches per inch. Presently I have 17 stitches on needles 1 and 3 and 34 stitches on needle 2. To get down to 12 stitches should I do it is 28 or 20 rounds?

Thanks again for all your help

To get down to 12 st, you need to decrease 56, so 56/4 (number of decreases per round) = 14 x 2 ('cause you’re every other row) = 28 rows. Since that is more than their pattern, that’s why I suggested measuring and/or trying it on - then you’ll know if it will be too long.

I forgot about 3 needles, LOL, had to think about that a minute. If that 34 is still the same 34 that was your heel flap, then yes, it will work the way you wrote.

Thanks for the tips. If it is too big do I just decrease every row near the end?
I could not have done this without this site. Thanks again,
D

You could, although keep in mind you will be on the WS for some of those rows then and adjust accordingly. For future, you are further ahead to adjust your length before you reach your decreases, then you can follow whatever directions for toe the pattern has and your decreases are separated nicely by your WS plain row.

Make sure and write down what you do if you are making a second sock, so they’ll match.

ok,
I’m still confused.
Am I supposed to do decreases every other round or as the pattern is telling me?
Can you explain what the pattern is actually telling me to do…The sock is supposed to fit a size 8 foot so since I am making guage I think it will be too large if I do it the way silver does it in the tutorial.
Sorry to keep asking it is just that I’m still a bit (or maybe alot) lost.
here’s the link again,
http://www.chicknits.com/socklove.html
D

I lost my mind and started talking about WS, when you will just have RS since you are in the round - perhaps that’s part of your confusion - sorry!

“Normally” you would decrease every other round til you got down to the stitches you need/like for the shape of your toe, then graft them together. I say 'normally" because of course every pattern has it’s own thing going on and you yourself may choose to change the pattern.

In thinking about this further, I’m wondering if the decreases in the pattern are correct (although it really doesn’t look like it from the pic) - the only issue there is that 24 st will be left over, but perhaps when the person wrote “Kitchener stitch remaining 12 sts to close toe”, they were trying to say that you will have 12 on each needle, since when you get done with your decreases you’ll shuffle your st around so you have the top st on one needle and the bottom st on a second needle.

If I were making this sock, I would probably insert a lifeline, info and pictorial [B][COLOR=“Blue”]here[/COLOR][/B], then finish the knitting as the pattern states and try it on, see if I liked it and graft the toe if I was satisfied. If it wasn’t what I wanted, then I’d frog back to my lifeline and just do the decreases every other row til I got the length I needed.

The pattern as written would make a wider, gradual (less steep) decrease towards your toes, and wind up with a kind of boxy toe - your grafting would be about 1 1/3" across your toes. Decreasing every other row would make the toe part a little pointier, but you’d probably have to stop before you got down to 12 st total (6 on each needle). Of course you can stop wherever you want and graft whatever amount of st together, whether it’s 12 or 24 or whatever. Keep in mind also that decreasing every other row is a more symmetrical, even decrease than how the pattern is written. How you finish the toe part all depends on what you want your sock to look like when your done.

Did you also need help with figuring out the pattern wording? If you decide to go by the pattern, you will be doing this:

A decrease round
2 knit rounds
A decrease round
2 knit rounds
A decrease round
2 knit rounds
A decrease round
2 knit rounds
A decrease round
A knit round
A decrease round
A knit round
A decrease round
A knit round
A decrease round
A knit round
A decrease round
A decrease round
A decrease round
Shuffle your st to 2 needles and graft toe together.

OMG you saved my life…I was beginning to lose hope that I would ever understand this!!!
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
I get it I really get it.
Your thorough explanation really helps me get it!!
Wish me luck!

Glad you will not have cold feet, LOL! Good luck with finishing sock one, moving onto sock two AND your next gazillion pair, since you will surely become addicted!