Help with shaping armholes

Hello i need help i cant figure out this pattern and it is driving me crazy :slight_smile:

Shape armhole
Cast off 2 sts at beg of next row.
30 [33: 37: 41: 46] sts.
Work 1 row.
Working armhole decreases in same way as back armhole decreases,
dec 1 st at armhole edge of next and foll 4 alt rows and at same
time dec 1 st at front slope edge of next and 2 foll 4th rows.
22 [25: 29: 33: 38] sts.
Work 3 rows, ending with RS facing for next row.
Dec 1 st at neck edge only on next and 5 [4: 6: 5: 7] foll 4th rows,
then on 0 [1: 0: 1: 0] foll 6th rows. 16 [19: 22: 26: 30] sts.
Cont straight until left front matches back to beg of shoulder
shaping, ending with RS facing for next row.
Shape shoulder
Cast off 5 [6: 7: 9: 10] sts at beg of next and foll alt row.
Work 1 row.
Cast off rem 6 [7: 8: 8: 10] sts.
Please help thank you so much Nathalie

Decrease at the armhole edge on rows 1, 3,5,7 and 9.
Dec at the front slope on rows 1,5, and 9.
The next set of decreases depends on which size you’re making. Which size are you doing? Can you give us a pattern name or a link to the pattern please?

Tyburn
by Sarah Hatton ‘’ Medium ‘’

OK, for the second size after the 3 rows worked without decreases, call the next row, row 1. Dec at the neck edge only on row 1, 5,9,13 and 17.
Then on row 23

Thank you so much :slight_smile: it would be a lot easier if they would right it like that.

Since you help me so much i will ask you an other little question i think i did my back the wrong way also the pattern says:
Shape armholes
Cast off 2 sts at beg of next 2 rows.
67 [73: 81: 89: 99] sts.
Next row (RS): K2, K2tog, K to last 4 sts, sl 1, K1, psso, K2.
65 [71: 79: 87: 97] sts.
Last row sets the decreases.
Working decreases as set, dec 1 st at each end of 2nd and foll 3 alt
rows. 57 [63: 71: 79: 89] sts.
Cont straight until armhole meas 21 [22: 23: 24: 25] cm, ending
with RS facing for next row.

Shape shoulders and back neck
Cast off 5 [6: 7: 9: 10] sts at beg of next 2 rows.
47 [51: 57: 61: 69] sts.
Next row (RS): Cast off 5 [6: 7: 9: 10] sts, K until there are 9 [10:
11: 11: 13] sts on right needle and turn, leaving rem sts on holder.
Work each side of neck separately.
Cast off 3 sts at beg of next row.
Cast off rem 6 [7: 8: 8: 10] sts.
With RS facing, slip centre 19 [19: 21: 21: 23] sts onto a holder,
rejoin yarn and K to end.
Complete to match first side, reversing shapings.

Once again thank you for your help it is really appreciated

These directions get easier the more sweaters you work:

Shape armholes
Cast off 2 sts at beg of next 2 rows.
67 [73: 81: 89: 99] sts.
Row 1 Next row (RS): K2, K2tog, K to last 4 sts, sl 1, K1, psso, K2.
65 [71: 79: 87: 97] sts.
Last row sets the decreases.
Working decreases as set, dec 1 st at each end of row 3 and rows 5,7,and 9
57 [63: 71: 79: 89] sts.
Cont straight until armhole meas 21 [22: 23: 24: 25] cm, ending
with RS facing for next row.

Shape shoulders and back neck
Cast off 5 [6: 7: 9: 10] sts at beg of next 2 rows.
47 [51: 57: 61: 69] sts.
Row 1 (RS): Cast off 6 sts, K until there are 10 sts on right needle and turn, leaving rem sts on holder. Turn as you would at the end of a row. Don’t worry about the unworked sts on the left needle. You’ll get to them later.
Work each side of neck separately.
Cast off 3 sts at beg of row 2. Work to the end of the row.
Row 3: Cast off rem 6 [7: 8: 8: 10] sts.

Once again thank you :slight_smile:
And i hope you are right that it gets easier after a couple of sweaters.

Ok me again i just want to be sure about this

RIGHT FRONT
Using 6mm (US 10) needles cast on 34 [36: 40: 44: 50] sts.
Row 1 (RS): K2, *P1, K1, rep from * to end.
Row 2: *P1, K1, rep from * to end.
These 2 rows form rib.
Cont in rib for a further 10 rows, dec 1 [0: 0: 0: 1] sts at beg of last
row and ending with RS facing for next row. 33 [36: 40: 44: 49] sts.
Change to 7mm (US 101/2) needles.
Beg with a K row, now working in st st throughout, cont as folls:
Cont straight until right front matches left front to beg of front
slope shaping.
Shape front slope
Next row (RS): K2, K2tog, K to end.
Complete to match left front, reversing shapings
the top part i got but if i have to reverse now once again I’m confused don’t know y i am pretty good but this one is driving me crazy lolll
Thank you for being so patient with me :slight_smile:

I’m delighted to help. This pattern isn’t all that simple to follow. When I get confused, I write out the numbered rows for the left side and then reverse the shaping for the right side. This side is going to be slightly different because of the placement of the cast off but that’s ok.
Shape front slope
row 1 (RS): K2, K2tog, K to end.
row 2 cast off 2sts, purl to end
row 3 knit
row 4 purl
rows 5, 7,9,11,and 13 dec at armhole
rows 5.9.13 and 17, 21,25,29, 33 and finally 39 dec at front
Continue even till the right front matches the left to shoulder.
cast off 6sts at armhole
knit one row
cast off 6sts at armhole
knit one row
cast off 7sts.

Ok now i am very confused the left side i don’t remember dec so many st !!

After the decrease of 2sts for the armhole, you have 33sts according to the pattern. There are 14 decreases between the armhole and front slope decreases which leaves you with 19sts before the shoulder decreases. The shoulder decreases are 6+6+7=19sts.
Did you end up with the correct number of sts for the shoulder decrease? Look over the left side decreases and count them up to check the number.

all is good it worked lol thank you so much for the help.
I am happy that i found this site you are the best :slight_smile: have a great day

good morning :slight_smile:

I’m at the sleeve part and like always just wanted to make sure i am doing it right.

SLEEVES
Using 6mm (US 10) needles cast on 27 [27: 29: 29: 31] sts.
Work in rib as given for back for 10 cm, ending with RS facing
for next row.
Change to 7mm (US 101/2) needles.
Row 1 (RS): K1, P1, K1, rep from * to end.
Row 2: As row 1.
Row 3: Knit.
Row 4: P1, K1, P1, rep from * to end.
Row 5: As row 4.
Row 6: Purl.
These 6 rows form patt.
Cont in patt, shaping sides by inc 1 st at each end of next and every
foll 6th row to 53 [51: 51: 47: 49] sts, then on every foll – [4th: 4th:
4th: 4th] row until there are – [55: 59: 61: 63] sts, taking inc sts into
patt.
if i understood it right at the end of every patt
i need to increase ‘‘1’’ st until i get to 51 st then i increase ‘‘1’’ st every 4th row until i get to 55 st right :slight_smile:

Great going!
So you would work the 6 rows in pattern and then repeat. When you repeat row 1, make that an increase row. Technically, you would then increase at each end of the next row 1 and the following row 1’s until you get to 51sts. If you prefer to increase on every row 6 to 51sts, that’s going to be ok too. Not a big difference.
Yes, the next set of increases would be every 4th row so it won’t coincide as neatly with the pattern but just keep track of where the last increase row is and you’ll be fine.
Remember too that you increase at the beginning and at the end of the row, 2sts increased per increase row.

OK so for the second set of increase i need to add 1 st at the beginning and then 1 st at the end so that means 8 more rows and it will be done :slight_smile:

Yes, after the final increase every 6 rows there’ll only be 8 more rows.

ok this time is the last question lol
Is it normal that the sleeve is very long longer than a normal size sleeve ?

It’s the style for this sweater. In the photo you can see that the sleeves are loose and falling in folds with the cuff turned up at the wrist (20 inches for your size). You can also see that the sleeve isn’t fitted to the shoulder but is somewhat of a drop sleeve. That would be too long for me.
If you want a shorter sleeve, knit them to the length you prefer. It’s your sweater!

Ok so that means if i wanted shorter i don’t have to knit up to 51 st i could stop at 45 plus 4 more st ?