HELP! How Do You Join And Keep Going On Circulars?

I am attempting to cast on this bag …
Springtime Drawstring Bag

I am using the same gauge yarn however I don’t have the size needles they call for so I’m using 5 mm circulars as I wouldn’t mind a slightly larger bag and it doesn’t give the finished dimensions.

I have cast on my 100 st then I am stuck
"Place red marker (which I did), cast on one more stitch (ok) … then join by slipping last st to LH needle and K2 tog"

Last night a gal explained this pattern to me but I should have cast on there and gone through it so I’d know how to get this damn stitch onto the needle … the LH needle seems odd since my LH needle is the one with all my st already on it … I just don’t get it … she said I would still have 100 st but I don’t and the 1 st I put on keeps coming unwound … I looked in the videos but maybe I’m looking in the wrong place.

Toby

Ok, I am guessing here but I suspect the LH should actually be RH. That would create a join.

That’s what I thought … maybe a typo.

Toby

Yeah, it’s the only thing that makes any sense.

So should I just be able to continue on joining in the round without that extra stitch and K2 together? I have a diagram in my book on how to join them and just keep on a-goin’.

Toby

you shouldn’t need the extra stitch, I just start knitting to join. Make sure that your yarn is coming from you right side, and your first cast on stitch that you made on your left that’s the one you will be knitting first to join it to the last cast on stitch where the yarn is, if that makes any sense at all :shrug:

If you don’t add the extra stitch you’ll only have 99 stitches instead of 100. You need that extra. Slip it over to the RH needle, K2Tog and you’ll have 100 stitches and go from there.

Toby should have already cast on 100, placed marker, cast on another 1, slip to needle, join…

so, if you just ignore the rest of the instructions after the cast on 100 above, you will be right. The extra cast on stitch after the pm takes care of the stitch you need for the knitting 2 together bit, but if your not gonna knit 2 together, you don’t need it. You, in this case, would just place your marker if you intend to use one and start knitting.

I don’t follow this at all … I attempted to join … I followed Amy’s video too and it just didn’t join … I cast on but I have no clue how to get that extra stitch as it keeps falling off the needle or I should say “unraveling” … I’ve started my first row and the work is still not joined up … I can’t follow anything unless I see it … maybe I’ll go back to my frogged shawl and wait for the next knitting night. :shrug:

Toby

That’s true enough. I was assuming that they were going for a very even edge as the reason for specifying the extra stitch and the K2Tog.

But then, I am a newbie and could well be wrong.

I cast on 10 st and try to join and see how I fare but it won’t join either … I did put on 11 st and slipped it and ended up with 10 but they are on the straight … maybe not enough stitches to join up? Maybe I need the 100? I did find some 3 3/4 needles with a 16" cord.

Toby

Does the first row not join?? What did I do wrong? :shrug:

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Toby, just keep going, that looks fine. It’s your cast on row that is creating a bit of a gap, cause if you think of it, you are joining technically, at the beginning of the second round (if you count the cast on as a row, and i don’t people, it’s just for examples sake…), so your ‘first’ row isn’t joined yet. You can just darn that together at the end. With more practise you won’t get this problem as much, but she’s looking good at the moment.

And 10 stitches wouldn’t be enough to join, unless you were doing magic loop or some other small diameter technique.

Just use the tail to sew up the gap when you’re done. It looks like a good join to me.

Quite a few knitters cast on one extra stitch for circular knitting, then knit the extra with the first cast on to join. It helps minimize the gap you get if you just start knitting to join. I started doing it when I first heard about it last year, and don’t do it the other way at all anymore.

sue

You can also take that extra stitch, slip it over to the RH needle, then slip what was the first stitch on that needle over it and off the needle to create a join.

You can also just exchange places with the first and last stitches, putting the stitches at the point of each needle on the opposite needle, kind of like passing a stitch over but you don’t drop either off the needles. With this method, you would cast on what you need, no extra stitches.

Toby, I think for your original post, they are assuming that you are poised to begin knitting the first round, which would have your working yarn on the right needle and then you would slip that last stitch (closest to the point) on the right hand needle to the left and then knit what is now the 2 stitches closest to the point of your left needle together. This is how I usually join my rounds, after casting on the required number needed + 1, since you then lose that extra stitch when you k2tog. I usually also use both the working yarn and the tail yarn for the k2tog and a few stitches more to weave that tail in, giving a good tug after the k2tog to tighten everything up. This makes my joins pretty imperceptible and with the tail woven in, there’s no darning of that end later. You just need to make sure on the next round to treat those double stitches as one, as there will be 2 loops around the needle for each stitch that used the working and tail yarns.


Ok … I’ve tried it again (I frogged)
Cast on 100 st, put marker on, cast on 1 more st … so now all my new work is on my R needle … I take the 1 st and put it on my L needle, move the marker then K2 tog, those being the first 2 st behind the marker … I used the tail and working yarn together for 3 stitches … I guess now what I want is to still have 100 st when I’m done … I seem to have less of a gap there now.

Am I getting it? :??

Krazy4kats’ method is what I use and always get a flawless join (also I make sure that the tail tightens the slipknot at first and the strand leading to the ball is the one that loosens it, not the other way round). Later I tighten the knot by pulling on the tail and make a ‘stitch’ that looks like a cast-on stitch between the two.
Sarah

:cheering: :cheering: Looking good Toby