I’m relatively new to knitting and have previously used yo to increase a stitich. Is there a difference with M1, and if so, how do I use it. Also, when casting on, is that usually considered the first row.
Thanks in advance.
I’m relatively new to knitting and have previously used yo to increase a stitich. Is there a difference with M1, and if so, how do I use it. Also, when casting on, is that usually considered the first row.
Thanks in advance.
A M1 is simply a twisted yarn over. A yarn over is simply a M1 without the twist. The M1 is demonstrated in all of EZ’s books, and as well as on here. If you are comfortable using the yarn over increase, just knit or purl into the back of it when you come to it again, and it will look just like the make one.
Hope that helps!
Hey Conti -just for my own edification - a simple YO will leave a hole, right? Like an eyelet? A M1 will not make a hole, right? :think:
And dlgil - I’m not well-versed in all the MANY versions of casting-on (or off), but I’m pretty sure that a long-tailed cast-on will count as the first knitted row, but others may not.
Need more experienced input on the cast-on question! I’d like to know too - thanks! 
Whether the CO row counts as row 1 or not is up for debate, no matter the cast-on method. I say no, but it doesn’t really matter.
M1 can mean many things, and is usually defined specifically in your pattern. If it’s not, though, then use the M1L (aka M1F) on this page. A YO does leave a hole, and a good M1 should not.
But, if you knit into the back of a yarn over, it will not leave a hole, and is almost identical to the make one. If you work a yarn over normally, it will not leave a hole.
Really? That’s cool.
I’m confused, though, about how you knit into a YO…you wrap the yarn and then knit into the back? :??
ETA: Doh! I was thinking of a YO combined with a decrease, which is what leaves the hole. I’m a dork! You’re totally right–of course a YO would work, too. :oops:
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No, you yo over and go on; it’s the next row you knit into the back of it.
And most people don’t count the CO as a row.
sue
That’s what I was saying. You yarn over on one row, and then when you come to it again, knit or purl it into the back loop. ![]()
You know what HJ, that’s exactly what I was thinkin’ - double DOH! 
:teehee: We’ll be dorks together! 
I use this in stranded colourwork to increase and it is absolutely phenomenal, it looks perfect. I used it for the gussets in Eunny’s Endpaper Mitts and Anemoi mittens and it looks perfectly smooth and flat exactly like the rest of the knitting. I was amazed! It’s like the motif was in fabric and cut out, no bumps along that edge… although I mirrored the direction of the yo at first, and the side where I did them in the same direction as a normal wrap or yo was not so smooth, I could definitely see the difference on that side. So for that inc in colourwork I now do them in the opposite direction.
Sarah
Thank you!!! I guess I’ve been doing it wrong, but I refuse to frog it and start again. I could not for the life of me figure out the “Make 1” directions in the pattern; a twisted yarn over is perfectly clear! Why couldn’t they just say that???!?!i
Darn. Now I’ll never be happy unless I rip out what’s gone before - it’s only 14 rows but it seems like forever!!!