Counting stitches in lace pattern

I’m getting confused with counting the number of stitches in a 4" swatch I made for a lace pattern - do you count the holes as a stitch?
Thanks, Sandra.

How many stitches were you suppose to get for gauge? Did you cast on just that amount of stitches or did you cast on more? I’ve not done a swatch with lace work and I’m interested to hear this answer…but I guess I would cast on just the amount asked for in gauge and measure and see what the measurement is and go from there … but like I said wait for someone with more knowledge than me.

The `holes’ make a stitch, but they’re a different size. Count the row above it where the YOs are knit like a regular stitch.