after looking at patterns for a pullover I realized that what I am really looking for is a v neck pullover with cross sts. That way it is not real bulky like cable work. I just looked in my old Harmony knitting stitches book and I seem to like the mock cable -left. So if you can find something not bulky like these sts that would be great. And is there a way to make them more fitted instead of boxy? Here I go again altering patterns, know wonder I have a hard time getting things to fit.