Okay, I found Jeff's site finally. I wish he had 40 in ones though! :doh: Anyway..I could get some 16's for baby yarn hats though.. will 16's be small enough for baby yarn and fewer stitches though? I still find that the kid hats on the Denises really stretch the yarn on the first several rows at least. What size would you normally use for baby hats? I realize it varies by yarn and pattern, I just want a guide to start buying.